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Military leaders are now asking the White House she delayed -- draw down.
Of US troops in Afghanistan this is according to reports in the Wall Street Journal today by the Pentagon reportedly wants the president to wait until the fall -- when he twelve.
To bring the 33000.
Surge troops home -- some on Capitol Hill are arguing the opposite.
A bipartisan group of senators is asking the president to bring the troops home beginning next month.
But senator Lindsey Graham told me on our show yesterday.
Why that's a bad idea.
The surge of forces were needed is working.
A modest withdrawal -- call for this July this letter bomb not colleagues.
Would undercut General Petraeus is transition strategy.
It would stop -- on the enemy is on their knees if we change strategy now they would be back into the game.
Well let's bring in a senator that disagrees with that democratic senator Jeff Berkeley of -- is one of the senators supporting the beginning.
Other dried out next month and -- I -- a little deeper into the specifics of that senator but I senator Lindsey Graham the only member of congress to be active duty serving.
In Iraq and Afghanistan why do you disagree with him.
Well put very simply we had three goals fluent in Afghanistan.
What was -- take out the Taliban leadership and government.
The second was to take on the al-Qaeda leadership that it planned 9/11 the top tier of leadership.
And the third was to eliminate the al-Qaeda training camps.
We have accomplished those.
But what has happened while we've been accomplishing those as we have morphed into a nation building mission.
In which are very funds are creating the corruption that thwarts that mission.
This is not the role for the American military.
We need to.
Recognize that al-Qaeda are in many countries all over the world and that we have to deploy them in -- our troops in -- counterterrorism fashion.
That takes on the threat -- attack.
So what is actually does that mean we have about a 100000 troops in Afghanistan right now and different forces.
We had the surge -- 33000 that's included in that 100000 number when you're talking about a sizable sustained reduction.
Give me an -- what exactly are you talking about.
I think that a lot of folks we use those words and I would have myself included are talking about initial reductions of fifteen to 25000.
Troops Carl Levin the head of armed services has stepped in and said it should be at least 151000 of roughly half.
Of that search number.
And sustained in the sense that it is time to change strategies.
We are building a strong central government in -- nation where that government.
-- is an affliction to its people because every position is sold from the governorships.
On down and that level of corruption means that guys US dollars in the US goal -- -- strong institutions.
And instead we need to be taking on the actual terrorist threat in it counterterrorism fashion.
The CIA says that there are less than a hundred al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.
But far more in Somalia.
In game and I certainly far more in Pakistan.
And that as -- threat we should be focused on not nation building in -- You know what you're saying I'm sure -- were resonating -- that can happen.
And -- it's RA it would what you're saying I'm sure is resonating a lot with our viewers that that seen this mission that you're defining davis' three components.
The Taliban and al-Qaeda leadership in disbanding al-Qaeda training -- -- -- and the training camps right these three components.
So what we are concerned what we often ask senator though are we winning in Afghanistan so we have done those three things.
Are you prepared to say that we've won in Afghanistan.
Well the word win is in the mind of the -- -- but -- we achieve the three missions that we set out to do.
And that's that was the point that was the goal it was to take on the terrorist threat.
Not to try to build massive new government institutions in the nation that has never embraced a strong government.
And which certainly is failing in its effort to do so now even with the high level of help that we've been providing.
See it's when he senators as they understand signing onto this letter that you sent to the president have you heard from the president yet.
No we haven't heard from the president yet but I'm I'm sure is going to be engaged in this dialogue within the next few weeks.
Because it's not just to -- senators in addition of them are folks who have made their independently of statements on the on the floor of the senate.
Joseph Manchin from West Virginia I certainly Carl Levin head of armed services cannot tell you.
Through doing this letter right conversations with -- with somewhere around 6070 senators.
And the sentiment is widespread.
That we are off track that we accomplish missions we set out to do.
We've adopted new one which has in here and obstacles and that is not the best use of our military resources for economic resources they continues to put.
Our men women in harm's way gulf war death and four injuries.
In in -- fashion that is -- best serving our national security.
Senator -- final question for you here is that a question about timing.
According to these reports that came out this morning with the Pentagon is saying is.
-- give us another fighting season doing a drawn down in the middle of July which is when there's a lot of fighting that takes place in Afghanistan there is an offseason when it's cold and end the fighting doesn't take place.
Why not and why why now why did the -- down now why not wait and -- get through this fighting season reassess.
Just to make sure it has to really make sure that this is the right.
Well let me tell you -- -- if we are -- down 15225000.
That still leaves -- force many times the size that we had over our first eight years in Afghanistan.
And that much larger force can continue in its mission we can continue to evaluate.
But let's understand this when we go in under this strategy of securing a village.
And we say we're not going to leave now we've tied up our resources indefinitely into the future the Taliban simply moves on to the next village.
And we do not have anywhere near the resources.
To occupy every village and Afghanistan.
From here to eternity.
It's not a logical strategy and taking on the terrorist threat if al-Qaeda comes back in it sets -- training camps we go in and we -- those out.
That is a much more feasible military strategy directly related to our national security.
Senator -- way it's interesting topic we're gonna talk a lot more about we really enjoyed having you on I was living right -- talking to again thank you sir.
Great thank you.
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