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Joining us now to talk about a Christian ran us policy advisor for the -- -- Nothing and now -- the new policy -- there.
Lead your -- is CEO progressives for immigration reform.
And joins us as well so Christian you think this is a bad idea is that right.
No actually we think employer verification is a key tool -- a part of a reform package for immigration system the problem here is.
That while it works 99% of the time if you're a citizen if you're actually.
And undocumented immigrant you know it picks you up 54% of the time.
And right now it's only used at 4% of those total workforce of the country.
But if you order to expand that out nationally that 1% error rate for citizens that could cost people three million jobs.
And that's a problem here when we're talking about small businesses.
Who are going to be the growers of our economy for the -- -- foreseeable future sources.
Now we don't endorses the way it currently is it just.
Doesn't work and -- now of the cost the small businesses is looking to -- about 2.4 billion dollars a year so if I -- the business.
And this thing comes back with a false positive saying that.
Somebody who is a citizen is not.
And that person gets fired they can file a class action suit and I can lose my business so I don't really see how -- as we're going.
No -- lawyer I can assure you that class action lawsuit would never be certified lead your rant let me get your view on this good idea bad idea.
It's a great idea I think you know.
You've heard the restaurant industry construction industry hospitality -- these these -- business -- actually the national association of independent business.
Small comprise a small businesses have come out in support of it why because it works right now we have about 250000.
Employers across the country that are currently using it.
We have a half of a percentage point of an -- rate that's that's next to nothing.
So I think you know -- we can hear these -- -- the bottom line is that this is a cost of fest that effective measure that actually works.
-- and basically you for a second does a legal.
Workforce not illegal but -- legal workforce actually help.
Well yeah most definitely you know what we're looking -- -- -- one of the key provisions of the bill the bill does it takes extraordinary measures to make sure that Agca has all the farmworkers and it leads.
One of things you have to remember is -- you know farmers don't have to begin complying with the bill for three years they've got little -- -- time.
You know but additionally.
We're only talking about.
It gives a free past all illegal alien workers that are currently farm workers that that's huge health said industry -- plus.
Initially we just need a bill that -- -- stop the exploitation of migrant workers I don't see of people could be against that.
And it's Chandler is been with -- -- out -- -- -- on an Obama volunteer action law professor what's your view this.
If he would -- -- -- because the current -- under the I nine system is that employers have to look at two forms of proof that that somebody is working literally -- this let me.
General technology as the -- instead of doing workplace raids that are very expensive and and sort of scattershot would now be able to use the check as to whether or not the -- years are actually using.
Then of course there's a follow up by the federal government but it's easy it's effective and -- enforces existing long.
Right I think he makes some sense because it's only -- teeth into the existing -- not really changing anything conceptual way.
Yeah which Christian you know we're all kind of wondering so what should be well I know I think you know it's really effective -- the fact seemed to belie that.
-- little couple things here so I think we're going back to the point -- about the -- industry and businesses in general I think.
We're talking about American job to tell -- about losing three million.
American jobs which is -- a problem you know I understand it's a point 5%.
Percentage rate that the conservative estimate is probably around 5% that's huge when you're going national.
The other thing that I think -- they should look at is where it is actually currently.
The law in Arizona the legal America Arizona workers act.
Only 13 of businesses in that state which has a lot of very tough.
Anti immigrant laws use this thing because it's.
Bad for business because it doesn't work.
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