What's Obama's Stance on Gay Marriage?
Uncertainty over his position
- Duration 5:14
- Date Jul 1, 2011
Uncertainty over his position
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Welcome back is that rated -- want to bring in the panel found because our have to listen -- have to discuss.
Kennedy Williams author of processing -- moments there before this it was -- again -- -- Kennedy.
And coming to us from our Denver bureau doctor Jeff Myers the chairman on board of some ministries here before you know I just out.
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That's right the first but we've got today because is on Obama and he based stopped short of endorsing gay marriage.
President Obama said Wednesday gays lesbians should be treated like every other American and he edged towards endorsing since marriage same sex marriage but you know he kind of stopped short.
It was -- to what he said following New York passing the ugly marriage bill.
What I've seen happen.
Over the last several years.
And what happened in New York last week I think was -- good -- because what you saw was the people of New York.
Having a debate.
Talking through these issues.
It was contentious there was emotional but ultimately.
They made a decision.
To recognize -- Americans and I think that's exactly how things should work.
All right what did you do first and tell us what you think about that white -- do you think you can't stop short because the Wall Street Journal.
Basically -- -- thing you know why didn't just come out and say.
-- that's a great question I think -- the answer he stopped short it's because he's kind of on the horns of dilemma I think it is harder he really does support the idea of gay marriage.
But his dilemma is this the gay marriage is a deeply unpopular.
Agenda item all across the country in the president's popularity has suffered I think he's a little bit afraid to.
Make himself even more popular but the other side of it is this and I hate to say this but.
That the president has become kind of -- reverse alchemist everything he touches turns to let.
That's a bit afraid that if he endorses this agenda it'll jinx it somehow and and stop its momentum.
It -- out of this and I think it -- I think you're pretty much correct the bit also if -- just came -- was added.
-- -- -- his space because it the numbers show that many people support gay marriage but it would also says something about.
His politics and perhaps that he hasn't been quite straightforward people see is maybe he should be.
I think this is where the man meets the politician I came back and the president has -- come out and see what he believes in because.
In that clip basically what he talked about what's the process.
Of what happened in New York she did not talk about whether or not he endorsed who you talk about the process everybody coming together.
-- -- -- talking about their feelings and things like that but he talked about whether or not he would endorse it.
However I do think that he should come out and say what it is that he believes and because we know -- all political.
However the reason I say that they -- there -- the man Meeks.
I think in his heart I think the opposite I don't know if he really wants to vote.
The bill I think that -- religious beliefs is totally against it but I think the political side.
He's saying wait a minute.
I think the popular vote is over here so should I do -- should do that do you really think though he doesn't believe it personally because you sit on the 2008 campaign that.
You know his his views -- -- marriage are you balding yes and he also in his in his administration.
He will defend the defense of marriage act he says it's on defense the constitution and you that he is a very smart guy.
It's just so why wouldn't just say -- -- they try to fight it.
Well I mean I think there -- don't let.
That's right what well he's and I think he's instructed the Justice Department as I understand it cannot defend don't but that's a major major policy shift.
So -- I would I would say he's probably in favor of this he's just trying to find the right political moment where he can move it forward and and -- -- the problem is there isn't a very good political moment because almost everybody in America opposes gay marriage when it comes before popular vote.
It overwhelmingly people opposed and I think I know why they oppose it.
I think they oppose it because they think it's arrogant for the legislature to say.
That they can decide what marriage is marriage you know I'm speaking from a Christian world -- -- obviously but marriage pre exists the state legislature.
So for the state legislature to say marriage is what we want it to be is just as ridiculous is them saying we wanted to be fifteen degrees warmer during the wintertime fifty degrees cooler during the summertime it's just not in their jurisdiction.
I agree when it comes to politics.
I really don't think that's -- legislation should be involved in telling people whether or not they should be married or not but that's just the way it is right now.
Yes but well no I and I I think about the way I would have a phrase it but -- that the way I would phrase it is.
The government has a compelling interesting certain kinds of marriage that are naturally reproductive because they -- -- the state and the economy.
So that -- so this is the government does not decide what marriage is the government puts it in premature on certain kinds of marriages because of what they do for the country.