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So let's go talk more about to Libya.
Yes we're joined now by lieutenant colonel Tony -- center for advanced defense studies an -- author.
Of operation dark heart thank you so much of being on the program for having me now we have them moments ago we were joined.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- These are -- -- -- and I have what we wanna talk to you about was this meeting that the US support reportedly met with Qaddafi.
Officials that they actually had.
Face to face talks in -- neighboring.
Tunisia over the weekend.
-- -- -- -- as far as I know what is true the problem with the meeting is it's still basically.
Telling -- you're not welcome time believe but not really giving any options and and let's be.
Transparent here friend of mine former congressman Curt -- -- the same thing three almost three months ago now.
-- he -- physically and he knew -- from the days they were negotiating with them back at try to -- of the W and the issue back right after nine elevenths so the administration -- gotta try this and frankly I I I still believe.
Until they give Qaddafi a path somewhere.
You're gonna continue to see and resist and frankly that's part of the problem we've not thought this through.
We've not decided what we really wanna do and and and and what I think we're what we're seeing here is like to -- knife fighters.
The -- folks in the and the rebels is slashing each other and the and the civilians are the ones who supposedly being being helped by this are not are being killed.
Download there's a lot of casualties and black are happening.
There was 520.
Of the rebel forces killed and a five day period and they're saying this huge number I came because of the lack of experience on the part but the rebels.
Why part of this is still the fact is innocent and let's be totally again upfront and transparent here.
If we decided we'd -- states decided we wanted to get this done.
We get have a armored cavalry regiment the regiment on the ground and take care of this in a week I mean that's that that's the honest truth.
Militarily we could -- had this over a long time ago.
What is unclear here is what is our real policy what are we really trying to accomplish and -- -- NATO as we have done.
But we seen the chaos and this resembles completely the chaos we saw with the Europeans -- with the Bosnia situation back in the late nineties and and until we decided we the US.
With NATO pushing NATO to do something.
We did it wasn't resolved it took Wesley Clark general Clark and an air campaign -- about.
Ninety days or less took to resolve it quickly.
This is where our whole the whole premise of the humanitarian issue.
Does not carry weight because we've allowed this to to -- kind of meander as long as meanders.
We're gonna have problems with the oil market because ms.
Roddick is an oil producing -- -- that are.
We're gonna have problems with Qaddafi and who's really in charge would recognize the rubble transform forward of government but what does that really mean.
So Franklin by the way out is over with one of the congressman overseeing this congressman Walter Jones yesterday.
Isn't -- dark he sits on the armed armed services committee and the administration despite wanna keep saying is not communicating what happened.
Engine problem -- big problem and you know I mean you have a tremendous -- -- Experience.
Which is sad really noteworthy I mean you've and worked and had key roles in multiple interagency operations -- -- with the NSA the CIA.
The FBI -- directing task force the -- citing unit that connected cutting edge technology and information operations in the mid ninety's.
Through the turn of the -- Tammy what would be your advice and then going forward to trying have.
Get this together I mean and no -- communicating business so -- lack of cooperation -- information sharing.
We really don't know what our position is there are there isn't any kind of transparency about it doesn't appear to have clear goal or direction.
My advice three point first define what you're really trying to accomplish -- they're trying to accomplish regime change just do it -- -- to quote the old Mac Nike tour.
Second we'll do it to quite to quote the old Mac Nike -- Secondly.
Usually -- control what you've decided on that figure out what is available to accomplish that mission.
I'm a big fan of Colin Powell and the -- doctor should apply what you've decided.
On what you're gonna do do it very quickly get it done and then -- and then move into this piece.
Reconciliation process with a -- again with a plan with the Russians may or may not be involved I just heard that report.
There's a lot of folks out there who could help mediate helped bring things back together.
This is a tribal conflict we have to understand the cartilage and -- back beyond.
Which -- -- and this is not simply freedom uprising we have to understand that and embrace that that's something we didn't do in Afghanistan we also the problem we have there now until the three things I recommend.
Okay and we got a question for one of our panelists up Bob has questioned -- that -- Hi hi there -- listen to a smaller completely one hon.
Your percent agree with everything you just -- yeah -- it's been.
Maddening to abandon this mission to NATO and the Europeans and they can't hear over the gonna do with the currency denounce -- -- not going to be able to figure out they're gonna be able to do an -- here.
The real question to me is who is the one you don't the issue head on right in the beginning which -- you have to give a mad dog and exit path you can't you you know he's.
Never ever going to -- -- ever ever Antilles killed unless we give them a way out I mean look what happened -- Mubarak in Egypt.
He's didn't you know Qaddafi is looking to -- him saying my goodness that's a civilized country compared to Libya what's gonna happen to me.
If I get captured so he's going to be he'll fight to the death unless we get him out of there.
Do you have -- good idea about where where could we take in what could we do with him at this.
Point -- you know this is one of the things that sit on dot com before is.
We need to -- look at the Arabs for resolving an Arab situation cutter.
And some of the other nations -- -- have all offered assistance.
Why don't we talk to them about bringing -- -- putting in some more let's not forget that.
-- leaders like the -- Idi Amin -- lived out his days -- next solemn and and and in an Arab country so we've not we've done this before.
A second point and if we decide we don't wanna given sanctuary we to kill him or bring in the justice we just the last Bosnian.
Wanted man was just arrested I believe yesterday.
Who now go to the -- court the world court attempted to indict Qaddafi look I think that's a viable course of action to.
To find a way to either killing or are capturing him so we can be tried for the murder.
Of the Americans he's killed a must be on the brutally honest here he's killed Americans -- -- simply baffled why we're not talking more about that very fact.
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