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-- killer in Norway says He had to help.
So far the evidence suggest He was acting on his own so we'll see the -- suspect is said to have ripped off some ideas from Ted Kaczynski.
Presidency of course the unabomber.
He was convicted of orchestrating a mail bombing spree that spanned nearly twenty years -- -- now former FBI agent Terry church -- He supervised the federal task force to capture the unit what bomber.
And is the co author of hunting the American terrorist.
The FBI's war on homegrown terrorists -- it's good to see you thank you what does He take from Ted Kaczynski that we all ought to think about.
Thank you show up well obviously He lifted some of the -- passages from the -- manifesto and it's not surprising.
We're now fifteen years from the time Kaczynski was arrested.
And we have these individuals who are affected and impacted by what He wrote.
And ironically that is exactly what Kaczynski would hope would happen over the years and I'm a little bit concerned that we're starting to see people doing that.
You his word that He acted out with that there are two other cells out there and other people involved I guess that something you have to take with a grain of salt along with everything else.
Both very interesting and I'm sure the law enforcement authorities and Norway are doing what they have to do and that is the follow the trail to follow the evidence the follow the facts.
And that -- answer those questions but what's really interesting is that if you look back at these lone bombers and you take Kaczynski for example.
He said He was part of the terrorist group FC.
And yet there was no FC it was just him.
Eric Robert Rudolph the Olympic bomber said He was part of the army of god this bigger conspiracy.
And of course we know now there was no army of god as far as -- bombings there was only -- off.
So again it's not surprising to see this individual now saying there's other people out there there's other terrorist cells and I notice He said in our organization.
So the the trail will tell what this is all about.
But it sounds very familiar to us this far is that these types of people and I wouldn't be surprised at the end of the day that is just him.
His concerns about multiculturalism.
As an investigator does that lead you to certain avenues of exploration.
Well what we try to do as investigators is just follow the trail and not so much about what these people say.
But a lot about where the evidence -- and I look at this is his rationale just like Kaczynski Kaczynski railed against technology railed against education in the media.
He railed against the government He thought the government was intruding on our lives and I think that's where these people get their passion and the use that as a rationale to do the terrible things they do.
In fact we all know there is no rationale for this no matter how upset you are frustrated you are what the government might be doing -- -- -- I wonder why I wonder what your level of concern if any level of copycats.
Exist -- the moment.
But not as worried about copycat in the sense of the word -- as I am about the fact that.
When we wrote the book -- the American terrorist we really felt that we would be looking at a future -- homegrown terror with one of the things we really have to worry about.
And I think we've seen that in the last few years and I think the really dangerous thing is we not only have to worry about people who might be.
Let's say to the right of the spectrum.
But also people who might in fact be recruited or.
Become involved in an evolving al-Qaeda which tries to find these types types of people who can then go out maybe act.
Pretty much on their own but on behalf of Al -- types of of -- itself we have a lot ahead of us and trying to deal with these people.
I think we found in the unabom case the real key here is the alliance between law enforcement and the media.
And the public and I think the media is the bridge to the public and of course the warm information we were able to put out about the -- bomber.
The more people we had call us and the in our chances of finding out who did this -- -- were increased.
A bombing as a distraction and -- killer at the same time.
Followed by another attack in another place there's a pattern here we see it all the time.
And -- I think that it's very interest -- that after He was arrested.
And of course the events of today.
He ends up by saying well I'm not guilty but I did do this and I'd like to talk about it I mean this is what makes these people work and it's what what motivates them.
And we saw this and Rudolph we -- -- Kaczynski and we're seeing it again and we'll see it unfortunately in the future.
This is what makes these cases so hard though these people act alone -- belonged to groups they don't talk about this -- other people.
And although we've talked about anger as a motivation.
What's really interest in and we have to keep in mind if these people probably aren't going to show that anger to too many people.
Former FBI agents -- searching and author Terry thank you very much.
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