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-- terrorism concerns of some very troubling comments -- earlier in the week from the head of US special operations navy seal admiral Eric T Olson.
Who said that on the hand that al-Qaeda 010 as He calls it run by Osama bin Laden was badly.
Damaged in fact He says nearing its end.
Due to be -- killing of Osama bin Laden how ever He says the next.
Generation of militants coming from places like Yemen it set -- -- This is via all Qaeda 2.0.
And that -- an article about this on our foxnews.com website right now.
That this might be an even greater threat with new leaders such as the American born cleric Anwar all all locking.
And joining us right now to talk about this -- -- -- 2.0 is lieutenant colonel Tony -- with the center for advanced defense studies and he's also the author of operation dark heart thank you so much for joining us thank you for having me and you agreed that this al-Qaeda -- is here and maybe more of a threat.
Absolutely and I think we're seeing -- level of sophistication we could not have imagined from the first generation.
Your own Catherine Herridge is sort of book that I participated in.
The next wave which talks specifically about the -- -- very issue here.
And admiral those people -- -- his spot on -- this comments.
We have people now we're no longer.
Cave dwellers there aren't they are citizens would dual passports.
And part of the issue we're seeing right here play out before us.
The second attempt to do something at Fort Hood by this soldier.
Should have been detected by the army and it wasn't unfortunately.
We have become.
In the army and I'm sensing this as directly as I think necessary.
88 a culture which is more focused on multiculturalism.
And trying to bring people -- of protected classes.
Further than doing what we're supposed to be doing as the army which is protecting the country.
Now I'm retired but.
The problem is the army's culture continues to -- -- I think -- He said this yourself think about the insanity.
Of a soldier in a statement saying I can't fight because I'd be killing Muslims in a -- -- get an aborted and the army.
You take an oath to protect the country against all enemies foreign and domestic.
I don't think we had Christian objector Christian conscientious objectors objecting to killing.
The Italian army or the German army -- -- -- when they were Christians as well we we need to focus on what's important and unfortunately we've not been able to do that well so far.
-- where is the biggest threat with this al-Qaeda 2.0 we mentioned Yemen and a lot of people pointing there.
Right why take unwell locking frankly as is more of the head of al-Qaeda -- that.
That doctors -- here at this point I think doctors are we here is almost a titular head if you think about it.
I don't think we have a clear understanding of where they're going yet and frankly most of the attacks the the -- to attack.
The Faisal Shahzad attack.
The -- -- all of attack were all it is somehow.
Related to I'm -- lock -- not to the larger leadership in Pakistan this is currently -- from al-Qaeda.
So I think this is where we need to look at plus we have this radicalization.
Of American citizens for people are being recruited via the Internet.
So I think that is for the more and more sophisticated in real threat is rather then.
The folks living in Pakistan not say we shouldn't deal with Pakistan we have to.
But the real threat the real next generation is coming from on -- -- in the folks in other places other than Pakistan.
Well what can the US do obviously you're alluding to the fact that the military personal have to keep its eyes open maybe a little more (%expletive) this is conscientious -- thing maybe could have raised a red flag -- that actually a look at this guy and instead was a gun store owner.
Who found that He had these explosives and whatnot and was ready to.
To go with this but -- -- from that what you're mentioning the Internet as a recruiting tool.
How on earth do we -- that.
Well first off our.
Our own system at looking at the Internet is way behind what's out there.
I talked to my friends and Intel's community all the time.
We have great people great individuals who understand it but a lot of the authorities a lot of the ability to deal with this with that is just not there we've not had the laws.
And regulations catch up to the reality.
With that said we've got to be as smart as they are we've got to figure out how they're doing things and try to get ahead of them right now we're playing catch up we always see you know.
You just mentioned a concerned citizen is a guy detected this guy.
Had there -- indicators out their far before this I'm sure and it'll come clear over the next few days as we learn more about this guy so we've got to be smarter.
And this is a war of chess not checkers.
And we've got to figure out how to play the chess game in such a way that we we continue to defend.
Our equities defend the rights of US citizens that's why we're here.
At the same time we have to understand this threat is going to be much more able to blend in to be under the radar and we've got to figure out how to get under the radar with -- -- Yeah well we certainly do all right thank you so much for joining us lieutenant colonel Tony Shaffer and again his book if you want to check it out is called operation.
Dark heart and He is with the center for advanced defense studies thank you so much lieutenant colonel for joining us today thank you.
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