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Well to counter governor Perry's Christian event another group is sponsoring and -- ecumenical event calling for separation of church and state.
And here to discuss both sides of the issue.
Include -- director of the center for religious liberty for the family research council which is one of the lead organizers of governor Perry's prayer event.
And -- Boston senior policy analyst for Americans United for Separation of Church and State one -- the organizers for the count prevents a welcome gentlemen.
Good thank you for -- on -- animal and rob start with you so what event is being held tonight.
Well -- that is inclusive -- interfaith in fact it's even gonna include some people who don't have any particular faith.
We think it's important that we respond to the exclusive nature.
Of governor Perry's event with that with an event that welcomes everybody -- makes it clear that no matter what you believe -- don't believe about god.
You're a full and equal citizen of the state of Texas and in the United States of America and your ideas are welcome.
Okay how much can -- why wasn't this event the event at Reliant Stadium why wasn't -- more ecumenical.
I think it was pretty clear lower -- that everyone was welcome to attend kids it's unavoidable.
That whenever you have any person no matter what their religious faith is obviously whenever that person speaks about faith their own personal faith.
It's gonna be reflected in -- in their choice of words so I think so long as it's being made clear that everyone is welcome at this event.
There should be no problem or controversy at all.
-- again I know that they say that everyone is welcome at this event but nobody but no one but Christians are going to be on the day has no one but Christians are going to be saying prayers.
So people -- -- will this really is a Christian event where there is a lot of kind of converting going on but clearly there is not this sort of sense that everyone is welcome.
He -- Russell is so long as as did the people making the decision about who's going to be in stage who's going to say what.
So long as those decisions are being made by private citizen it doesn't it all in invoked the establishment clause.
You're hearing a lot of noise on the left but the reality is.
That those -- were speaking against this on the left are are people who generally think that there should be no role of religious faith.
In any sort -- but in any sort of public activity I mean here we're talking about a day of prayer the reality is that federal law.
A -- bush is a national day of prayer in the first Thursday of every -- and on the 44 presidents that this country has had 43 of those 44.
Have called for national days of prayer where they encourage people to privately participate or to attend events.
In accordance with their own personal religious conscience that the dictates of their conscience.
And in whatever they personally feel comfortable way.
You know -- it is a privately.
Organized events so what would be the objection here with governor Perry being as a private citizen.
Well was conceived and and sort of formulated by governor I don't think it's that any government officials' job to be organizing a -- -- and I also I should point out that.
This isn't just a Christians only event it's a certain type of Christian.
Now that there's an interesting dynamic unfolding in Houston right now about fifty.
Members of the clergy at least have signed a public statement saying they don't agree with this approach because many of them are Christians that they don't think -- certain type of christianity.
Does being promoted -- at this event.
Reflects their belief and I don't think the governor should be endorsing that type of christianity over any other type forever Judaism or Islam or atheism or whatever.
Private individuals and private groups have the right to get together have a prayer rally I just don't think it's a governor's job or or the mayor's job or even the president's job.
To be calling people to prayer that is a job for a clergy the government should stay out of it because when they get involved in it inevitably.
They -- siding with a certain faith over others in the messages sent that guy you don't agree with the perspective being promoted on stage.
Well you know your tolerated but you're really a second class citizen.
Peter -- is raising an interesting point because we -- -- -- package before that not all Protestants were invited not all you know Catholics were invited this was a certain kind of Christian.
That that and -- mean in in what is the what do you say to that.
Well -- I think that's where -- position kind of gets me in trouble because he's trying to bring two issues together.
First He says -- it's no role for any government official to call anyone to prayer.
Again that's been done by 43.
Of the 44 presidents this country has had -- is now a matter of federal law.
That a president once a year calls for everyone to join in in prayer if there -- so inclined so.
So that's a matter of of generic religiosity that's consistent with America's best tradition.
And that's been the case since George Washington now He He brings in that second point of saying.
But I also don't want to government official to be involved if it's not the right kind of Christians being invited or included.
-- that ironically is where the establishment clause would be violated if they governor were to say.
I'm going to choose what type of Christian I want to associate with and what type I do not.
And then I'll be making governmental actions that are choosing between religions all you have here is a generic -- to play our.
And -- governor consistent again with with American history going back to George Washington.
And even up to -- Obama Barack Obama has called for national days of prayer pursue it with federal law.
-- the governor just following in that tradition.
And then not choosing to cross the line by saying but I'm gonna make sure there's a certain quota of different religions represented and this type of person and that type of course trying to find it's not -- apps running --
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