The Big Picture: The Down Grade
How has the debt fight affected each political party?
- Duration 6:08
- Date Aug 8, 2011
How has the debt fight affected each political party?
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Member of the team Andrea -- -- who's worked in numerous campaigns worked up on the -- -- Andrea.
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Political consultant pollster for president.
Clinton for -- Julio -- Somalia particularly around and I think -- we have pat.
Could do our regular member of forest campaign confidential team from North Carolina pat good morning.
Good morning I'm an actual government -- -- -- -- stunningly beautiful and cool that I.
So a year months ago pat use the word after a bad jobs report.
That the country snapped that Friday morning at 8:32 AM.
When we went up but He was to nine point 2%.
If they doesn't matter if they snapped two months ago pat what happened.
It's Friday night.
When Standard and Poor's downgraded this thing to double -- plots that have to be a shock to the political system.
Well I think it is just -- I think actually it's an assorted sort of -- electric -- I think it gets a confirmation.
They re actually this disaster that took place.
In terms of the because discussions are renowned ability to get anything meaningful than the last minute desperate because.
Well built hero on the debt and -- -- -- together.
It's just I think Justin censored part -- police.
That we talked about on the show in the pocono I've been polling and -- which is this country is the normal political class with the pensions.
We really essential real decline.
Let's get hander is dependent because she hasn't been -- -- before we have been saying this that.
Of antipathy by the public verses the political class in both parties is seems to be accelerating -- summer you -- -- I agree and I would agree with pat that this debt fights hurt both parties.
And I do think it hurt Republicans more and I think that the kids.
It played out that that infighting in -- it to you He played out in the media the media was very quick to play up the many fault lines in the Republican Party.
Tea Party verses establishments.
Moderate vs conservative.
So you know I do think that even though.
Republicans were trying to fight over actually putting this country on some solid ground.
It played out not that not that well for them and I would say that the president.
The reason He usually does duck and stays out of the fray is BK is He does not want to get hit a fight I think that that may have helped them a little bit.
But at the end of the day it's going to be his name on the ballot so.
I think -- it's staying out of the -- don't think it is the best thing.
The -- only partially agree in partially disagree with and they.
I think that the Republicans came out certainly according to the polls weaker than the Democrats -- -- was hurt.
The -- is the Republican argument.
About reducing spending reducing taxes.
And balancing the budget clearly won the day I mean -- if you look at the last six or seven months it's very hard to make the case.
That eight democratic argument won the Republican argument one even if Republicans suffered in their numbers I think the problem the president has -- life.
I absolutely agree with your last point.
Is you know what his name is on the ballot and they're out of ideas I had been an advocate pat had been an advocate certainly I think John occasionally been an advocate.
Of the bulls Simpson approached a balanced approach.
And as important as that approaches.
It was an approach as opposed to the.
Oscillation we saw from Obama with his left and doing when Andrea said which is -- I don't ask all -- is something I have an opinion that what Standard and Poor's did.
And dropping the raiding a sensibly it's of the death -- so the American.
-- values that that really that double A plus rating they gave us was a rating on our political ability to solve a problem.
That this was such an ugly two months.
That they don't have any faith that it's gonna be any better in November when the super committee thing gets going.
Pat you by any of that.
Well yeah I think that's -- I don't think the public thought what was done little.
And this is certainly were opposed to the truth of the matter is very little was done we keep keep happening risking their work.
We -- go deep budget that group would cut the quote someone gave me a metaphor yesterday which is perfect which is a good doctor doctor -- gain ten.
And -- mode and you're really gaining weight.
So you say well wouldn't that world mitigated by counsel -- that that's called -- that Sadat.
We've gone from being can I don't seem like.
This is ridiculous that the fact is is that they're not serious about cutting spending and help now was the crisis.
This is what's striking stale old list.
If we go back to the Simpson -- -- -- -- way to do this but right keepsake the American people and that's all the numbers and that sort overwhelming.
We -- all sites or interest the president.
The Republicans in the Democrats in the house.
And so that's all we shouldn't think of their political fortunes.
That's what comes first what little politics public country as our country is tired of a --