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Let -- now the winner of the Iowa straw poll congresswoman Michelle Bachmann and welcome back to FOX News Sunday thank you good to be with you Chris and let me just site because I inadvertently.
Offended Jews in the last your last appearance here and IE -- wanna say on television what I said do you personally I sincerely apologize I didn't mean to do.
-- forgive every move forward so we're read ago are.
First of all congratulations.
On your victory in the straw poll yesterday what do you think is the message from -- it's.
Wiping the message is that people want a change in Washington DC they don't want what Barack Obama is giving and I think we saw a punch to the -- In the United States -- last week with what's happened and the economy.
People are really tired of the spending they want to make sure that we get it under control.
They did not want us to raise the debt ceiling and they didn't want the president to get another 2.4 trillion dollar blank check they -- a very loud and clear message.
But you know they could have sent that to a lot of other candidates what do you think the -- is.
By voting for yet.
Well I was very strong and very clear people knew that I was leading I'm not increase in the debt ceiling they wanted they want someone to stand up and say enough is enough on spending.
And they appreciated the fact that I stood up.
And was kind of a long voice and they they want to make sure that we do have that change in Washington DC.
And I think the other thing is they want to know that they can trust the person they're sending.
But that person will be reflective of what they're sending them to do and I think that's what they saw they know that I am a person who will do it I -- I am going to do but.
Not to take away from your victory in any way but but what about the argument that voters here that voted in the Ames straw -- represent.
An important part of the Republican Party the Tea Party that the evangelicals the social conservatives.
But it's not the whole Republican Party how do you do you feel that you need to expand -- base to other elements of the party and if so -- -- -- What we're expanding -- already because I've been all across Iowa and really all across the country will be in South Carolina later this week in New Hampshire.
But here in Iowa as I've been on the street.
There isn't an event where I don't have Democrats and independents and people never been political -- -- in their life come up to me we have wonderful event.
If people are very frightened about where the economy is that right now and they want to vote for someone they believe and sat -- a lot of Democrats even hear -- -- -- yesterday.
A lot of Democrats came out to this straw -- to vote for me and independence and that's when I'm seeing quite frankly all across the country.
People -- said I really thought very highly of President Obama.
But I now I'm not so sure He won't have my vote the next time.
And they like what I have to say they believe the message because they understand that I want to turn the economy around and I have a plan to also for job creation.
At Texas governor Rick Perry got into the race yesterday in the South Carolina and his outreach to values voters.
Is similar to yours let's watch.
I learned that not every one.
Bag is lives like we do in America.
Or are the rights that are in doubt and to every human being by -- loving god.
Rick Perry has.
Ten years of experience as the governor of Texas He has a strong story to tell about job creations since the recession.
Why should voters go for you -- Rick -- I think I have demonstrated that I've been a fighter in Washington DC and also just -- -- life experiences I'm 55 years old Emma.
-- federal tax litigation attorney my husband and I -- -- and started a successful company.
I get job creation I guess how the economy needs to work because I've seen -- devastating high taxes are.
I ever proven record but I think what's even more -- sets me apart from the field.
Does the fact that I've been a proven fighter in Washington.
On issue after issue after issue I've led.
To the point -- -- even brought tens of thousands of Americans to Washington to fight against the unconstitutional.
Health care mandate which I'm extremely grateful.
The eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals of street this week in their decision.
And no one.
I think it's fair to say questions the strength of your convictions and when you say you -- a titanium spine I think most people come to believe it.
But -- 10 explorer -- different with the -- today and that is.
Your willingness your ability to be a practical politician and work to compromise.
If you were president now.
What would you do to reassure the markets and to boost the economy would this important proviso that could get through a divided government.
Well and we will have an election in 2012.
And as were the nominee of the Republican Party.
I will work tirelessly.
To make sure that I can help elect also an additional thirteen senators to come with -- to Washington.
Because I would like to get to that magic number sixty so we can be filibuster proof in the senate.
And retain a conservative house if we do that.
Then we can repeal Obama care and repeal Dodd-Frank and the first member of congress to introduce both of those -- pill measures.
That would -- a very -- a strong signal to the market plus what we need to do is have someone who's very serious about cutting back on government spending I am.
And with my background is a tax lawyer.
I see that we have got to reform the tax code it is the job killing center of the United States and we have to lower tax rates considerably -- job creators.
Yet I've -- -- with everything from the death tax alternative -- met and attacked a 100% expensing immediately for small businesses.
But what we're doing right now is -- working.
We've got to turn it around and the regulatory burden is just killing industry after industry right now I hear it everywhere I -- I was hearing in you know Iowa.
And one company Symantec blocked lost half of their employees they're the largest manufacturer volume -- cement mixers.
And the CEO told me that most of those -- aren't even going in the United States are going out of the country.
Because the construction industries flat on its back housing prices are flap they're falling.
We're in a -- and we can't turn this around.
But we have to have a president who is sending signals that they're serious about business I am I'm a business -- And I'm serious about turning the business come here on because that's jobs we have to focus on job creation but but.
Let's assume for that purposes of this of this discussion.
You are elected and even maybe the senate goes to the Republicans but you don't have the veto proof majority you've got -- worked with Democrats to get your agenda throw.
Well of course I can work with Democrats and Republicans -- the best example would be in my own home state of Minnesota it's not known as a conservative bastion my home state.
But I was able to lead a movement.
To actually repeal Minnesota's education law that we had and put into place something that had higher academic standards.
That was that's I cut my teeth in politics on education reform.
I'm a mother of five children -- -- 23 Foster children and our home -- good education is extremely important to me.
I brought together primarily a coalition of Democrats and independents to work with Republicans Republicans were never going to get this through.
But I brought a lot of that Democrats and independents together we actually accomplished -- and that's just one example what we can do in Washington.
So I remember Ronald Reagan when I covered I'm used to famously say half a loaf.
There's better than none as Michelle Bachmann willing to accept in some cases even if it goes against your principles.
-- -- -- Why don't compromise my core principles that's how you leave you lead from principles but you make advancements sometimes sometimes you can't get.
All of the all of the way sometimes you make steps.
As long as you're making progress you're going in the right direction that's the difference the trajectory that the country is going right now is negative everyone knows it.
So we need ever present that's going to at least get us on the trajectory of going to write your.
Let's go back to that moment in the debate when you and I got to say all the other candidates on that stage said that you would walk away.
From a debt deal.
Here's here but it is right here.
Ten dollars -- real spending cuts to one dollar in revenue increases.
Tend to want.
Top economic advisor Marty Feldstein.
Said that's too hard line that that would be walking away from a huge conservative victory.
-- and probably Reagan would be the best example because Reagan was going to get three dollars in spending cuts for every dollar in tax increases.
It ended up being.
Three dollars in tax increases for that for every dollar in spending cuts.
That's the way it works in DC.
The deal sounds so rosy at the very beginning and usually that cuts are -- there often to future years and of course one congress.
Can't find the next congress and a congress lasts for two years.
So we can't find what future congresses to do we can -- chests and they -- really proud to say over going to cut trillions of dollars.
But we can't guarantee -- future congresses will do.
That's why no one would take that deal on the fox stage of the debate.
Because we all know that their faith cuts essentially they sound good they're sound -- but there -- real I -- not reality.
That's what I care about -- this is not a joke this is not just a political game this is getting the country back on the right track people really are suffering.
All across -- state I've seen it people want jobs they want job growth and they want someone who has the backbone to do what I do.
In the debate -- said that that the downgrade.
Of the US -- writing.
Supported your decision to vote against the death lemon here's what you -- in the -- -- one.
Heard from standard -- When they -- -- when they dropped our credit rating what they said is we don't have an ability to repay our debt that's what the final word was from them.
I was proved writes in my position we should not have raised the debt ceiling.
But a top S&P officials says that a big part of their decision was quote.
People in the political arena were even talking about a potential default.
This kind of rhetoric is not common common amongst AAA sovereigns.
In effect they seem to be saying the talk from you and others about not raising the credit limit and the political gridlock.
Was one of the reasons that they downgraded the -- Well let's make a distinction.
I never at any time talked about default as a matter of fact I -- -- to plan.
To ensure that in the United States' sovereignty would not default that's important.
No wonder the market to be -- if we didn't have a plan I had one.
Unlike President Obama.
Pres Obama as you know had no plan.
And yet the administration going back to January sent out a letter that I received every member of congress received that -- we have to raise the debt ceiling.
But then in February the president introduced his budget that -- -- -- spending by a trillion and a half dollars.
He did nothing in this policy to have us come to balance so then in April we heard from standard and force and they said -- If you don't get your act together we could potentially see it downgrading of -- of the credit rating.
The next day the Treasury Secretary went out and said there's no risk of us losing our triple -- credit rating so the president has known all along what could happen.
And they they essentially put their hands up in front of -- -- -- that it'll ever happen it did happen because you can't spend money you don't have.
People all across the country have been trying to get the attention -- Washington.
We can't spend money we don't have we have to start paying our bills that's -- Standard and -- is telling us.
Get your act together like any homeowner would have to do like any business would have to do and that's what the federal government has to do stop playing with other people's money.
And get your act together and they are doing it.
You have been critical in fact you voted against but you've also been critical and you were in the debate of the deal that was finally agreed to.
Can you pointed out that for all the talk about a trillion dollars in cuts it's how much in the first during one billion -- -- Are you saying that I -- 2.4 trillion dollar blank check vs 21 billion in cuts.
Parents for one year going to stand -- -- not but are you saying that speaker Boehner and as senate leader McConnell made a bad deal.
I'm saying it's not the deal that I would've made.
Because I work because quite frankly the problems that we have -- today.
We can't we can't put this off -- tomorrow because we know that you got any number of levels just with the Medicare hospital trust fund.
We have nine years and that's broke I don't want any senior citizen to be in a position where they're told.
Were were out of money we've got to reform that system sooner rather than later that's why I say we need to pay the interest on the debt that's -- you don't default.
We tell our military men and women under no circumstances will you not get a paycheck it was.
Irresponsible of the president to suggest they wouldn't.
And for Social Security retirees we tell them if you are currently in the system you're getting your check that was wrong for the president to suggest they may -- -- But congresswoman -- If I -- here's the problem without the bipartisan policy center and it really is bipartisan the main.
Analysts that this was a a top advisor in the bush 41 administration He said that if we happen to raise the debt limit as you who suggested.
Here's what would have happened in this month of August if you -- as you say our creditor Social Security Medicare and the military.
You can look at her right that you would have had to cut everything else 68%.
Veterans' benefits Medicaid unemployment insurance food nutrition programs IRS refunds the FBI would you have been willing to -- -- program.
And she doesn't that tell you how bad off the United States is the fact there were over spending to that level.
Let's just take a look for a -- we we got all of us pay taxes.
And that tax money came to 2.2 trillion dollars this year.
We spend every cent of that 2.2 trillion the problem as we spent an additional one and a half trillion that we don't have.
Every dollar we I don't really every dollar the event we -- according science so this is what we have to do.
We have to grow the revenue side we need to embrace pro growth policies were not growing.
The very first quarter of this year it was -- -- -- it was point 4% growth.
That's basically stagnant if that it's a -- embrace programs policies and then shrink the -- spending.
So we have got -- shrink the deficit but expand the amount that is I wish I -- that's not trekking that's.
Taking meet woes lately I I think what the one thing we have to do is reject the new normal level of spending under the Obama administration.
Because and President Obama aunt up spending to never seen before levels.
Should we accept that we should just continue that on I mean one example -- it -- We had one employee at the federal Department of Transportation -- made a 170000.
Dollars a year at the beginning of the recession.
We had the trillion dollars stimulus -- eighteen months into the recession.
We had 1690.
Employees making over 170000.
Government has really been growing at a lot of largesse but people in the real world art and that's what has to change government has.
Know about conformity at all with the real world.
I want to ask you about a report that came out this week -- famously opposed the Obama stimulus plan and you called it wasteful and Tennessee economics but Newsweek reports.
This gives me that after -- the plan passed that you wrote six letters to the administration asking for stimulus funds they say that you.
Wrote -- saying that a local bridge would create almost 3000 jobs that you set -- highway project would quote promote.
Economic prosperity that sounds like your we're we're buying into the the stimulus idea.
I voted against the stimulus and I was very public against the stimulus after this tennis was passed in the money was there.
Why should my constituents or anyone else -- disadvantaged most of the money and fortunately.
Ended up going to politicians who are politically well connected to Barack Obama.
That's what's wrong with Washington.
Too -- the money has no connection to marriage or where it should go.
It goes to political connections that's why I signed -- earmark pledge I think it I think earmarks are wrong we have to do away with them.
But I also think at the same time that people -- across the country shouldn't be disadvantaged.
Because they didn't vote for the -- I I just wanna ask you about the earmark pledge because when it was imposed.
You spoke out against it the earmark ban on -- said.
Advocating for transportation projects for one's district in my mind does not equate.
To an earmark but isn't that exactly where the outrage over earmarks started with the things like the bridge to nowhere.
Well that comment actually was in a different context.
We do -- one legitimate function of government is to build transportation projects roads bridges -- -- changes that is something the government should do.
And so we need to do it -- a wave that has to do with marriage and where these -- should be built.
You'll -- in different parts of the country and there could be that the 34 lane highway.
That has no connection to the amount of people that.
Use it -- so you think -- congresswoman should be able ask.
For money for a road building project in her -- I think we need to reform the system currently that we have in Washington because it's absolutely violent cropped.
It has no connection with where we need to spend the money it has everything to do with political connections.
Finally and I want to just ask you a couple of Michelle Bachmann questions.
Are you enjoying yourself.
For sure I am I'd like to get a little more sleep over ever -- greats actor I'm in Iowa -- good -- enjoy themselves -- -- today I'll be going back to Waterloo where I was born.
Just -- -- this is where -- launched at my candidacy 48 days ago.
It's I'm going there to thank everyone in Waterloo where -- was born.
And I was seventh generation -- we were early pioneers here 150 years ago so we're having a big family reunion today.
In northeastern Iowa so I'll get to go and see all my relatives and I think that their for their site.
Think it's fair to say that when this race started you were.
A long shot sure.
Do you now think you can win this race the only course I do I know I know why can't I know I can.
Because what I've seen from people all across the country is they've really do wanna take the country back they -- new direction.
And they want someone they can believe and I think the -- -- -- a champion.
For their values and their voice and I want a real person in the White House -- -- they contrast so yes I absolutely do.
And and let me press that a little further.
In your heart of hearts do you believe.
That you will win and when you consider that thought predecessor president -- What are -- office.
Well my thoughts are that we are the greatest nation that has ever -- and I'm not thinking just about today Chris I'm trying to think.
Fifty and a hundred -- fifty years from now for the next generations that are yet to come the United States has been the greatest force of mankind in the history of the world.
And I think the world is a better place if we remain that premier economic and military superpower that's my goal.
Not just for today but I'm trying to look into the future to make sure that we have that strength.
And do you believe honestly that you will win.
That's what I'm working for you bad for the critical look at your work about the law barred her head and lose a lot of -- for -- -- right it's for them that's enough for me.
Congresswoman Bachmann we wanna thank you so much for coming on the air and pleasure as always -- glad -- clear thing.
The -- -- -- right road -- -- thank you for starting your day with -- safe travels and we will see you again on the campaign we'll be delighted thank you congresswoman.
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