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I'm more of Liberty University lays out the hard truth in his new book honestly.
Really living what we say we believe between me now.
Right here and it is younger as you say from a rookie or -- -- -- when when Steven Dyer said it'll be the young people.
I immediately thought if you admit is that really what it's going to take the young people to sort of kind of understand their -- again.
I think sounding cliches ever been her young -- and a multi cultural movement and ethnic multi generational movement.
But it's definitely historical fact that through the years this deal of the next generation seems to fuel the knowledge of the previous one and so.
He died so I totally totally I -- my heart jumped in my chest when He said that I I think we're an historic moment.
What you say that there is this culture of how hypocrisy amongst Christians before so it's not it.
-- for 2000 years in -- He has been christianity's.
Biggest problem -- I talked to Christians it has been more than anybody in the country and they're disappointed and disillusioned with the church and and I talked secular people to an and it's -- one thing they say on the palace Christians as they say one thing and they do something else and I just got fed up when it.
And so I decided to write this book out of my own personal experience so basically what is your personal experience that that sort of brought you to this point you've got a personal story tonight the it it began I was with my -- family I was saying.
That kid middle schooler and a perfect -- senator -- -- you know -- -- the doors are open you go to church and.
-- you look the right -- you say the right things and you know the culture religion but meanwhile I like so many families and in this country my parents' marriage is falling apart and the bomb -- kind of already dropped from the plane was -- towards the ground when they finally went to the church to get help but affect our our Christian culture.
I didn't make -- for authenticity and humility and admitting weakness and right and it didn't work and went to the Kelsey pastor within a few months and my house is foreclosed upon our cars are repossessed.
Kicked us out of -- and score you in because He couldn't pay the bill and.
My dad help they didn't help you were your parents repair the marriage at all didn't do well they they said they tried and they think that a few things and then.
Did you not too long after my dad tried to kill himself -- my present things got that so bad.
We found out that the pastor that was counseling them.
Had been simultaneously.
In an affair with -- pastor's wife.
-- -- and done that put me on a journey.
To find out whether this was really true or not whether I was just gonna believe in my parents believe it or -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- and it and and you know.
I almost left -- all right what what brought you back what brought you back -- how do you how does any person -- guard against sort of just having the outward semblance of -- faith.
I think there's a real difference between religious activity and actually having -- the right evening.
-- spiritual life and for me it began with that with the real season of -- and -- and the second that chapters second section of the book I talk about my my doubts.
And you know I went all over the world even as a Christian pastor on the inside -- wrestling with these thinks I went to the Dali -- city in northwest India -- the holiest.
At least for Hinduism of the banks that Ganges River where -- gave his first sermon the largest mosque consolidation -- stood -- -- Macedonia.
And a memorial.
Genocide victims -- Wanda.
-- -- I ask myself whether this is this is all true.
And my faith in the end became stronger because of my belt now we care and I think -- of what isn't.
And more true why don't -- churches Foster the sense that we are weak instead of we're strong.
You know work from the inside and and I say they're -- christianity because it is there is a difference.
Because christianity says you know other religions say do this and you'll -- -- christianity says what is already -- -- -- It's really sort -- been done before yeah grace you know that there is door that leads to long road.
As opposed most religious along where the leads leads to a door -- why isn't so hard to kind of walk back talk.
Well Kashin is the console institutionalize and so I I judge my spiritual help how many church services like ten -- how often -- I read the Bible.
But you know when Jesus came from heaven.
He came into hyper religious culture -- Greco Roman gods with perfect physique she's magnificent temples and -- had a Jesus -- He came in a major he'd even go to Rome He went to.
This tiny little town called Bethlehem because Jesus I guess sort of thought that.
That may -- men would feel a little more connected to a god that looked like.
And god is OK with our doubts and our questions I mean that much vilified apostle Thomas right everybody's -- downing -- -- horrible.
No doubting Thomas was.
-- -- it was the only apostle but touchstone to -- us and history tells us He eventually believed enough that He died as a martyr and south India.
And 2000 years later in one of the least Christian of all nations there's a church in south India that traces its lineage all the way back to you.
The vilified gelding apostle.
Because He had his own experience for Jesus and Jesus was okay with the.
Yeah you know I don't know veto dot com pastor -- Nelson -- -- dynamite exhibit up there are only gave a sermon -- and He was saying you know people always say I don't wanna go to church because they're just so many hypocrites hypocrites there.
And his response is well you know there's always room.
For one more -- I mean we're all we're all hypocrites in transition and that's okay you know I just sort of put -- hypocrisy -- honestly yeah I wanna be honest.
-- in the five reasons if we're not living what we say we believe we you know white why we're probably doing -- we're not -- -- -- persevering and a mission and vision.
It's okay to be hypocrite and transition it it's not okay to be hypocrite and not care.
Or not be aware of it yeah that's only getting truck that's really the title will thank you very much -- Moore the book is called honestly.
Re really and living well we say we'd be lead where that would be transforming power -- overnight absolutely.
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