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This to the audience the governor Mitch Daniels of Indiana He is the forty ninth governor of that state.
And author of keeping the republic saving America by testing like trusting rather by trusting or maybe testing by trusting Americans go to thank you very much -- one -- the program tonight.
I felt I did a very much.
You've said that if you run for president if you were running in fact this would not be the kind of book you would have written in preparation of the typical campaign -- why is that.
Live -- -- the I guess that was just say in this.
You know most.
It was never intended that way I didn't intend to run -- -- thought about it.
-- the courts write the book as people asked me to put.
-- those books written by a presidential aspirants tend to be pretty sanitized pretty pretty play it safe and here it is sort of say what I think can best hope to make a little cost kind of -- -- the national conversation.
How close did you come to making the decision to run.
Allegations -- fairly close idea.
I started off.
Would just be amused by the idea and and over the course of time just.
Because a lot of people are respected.
Asked me to take it seriously I did.
In the end it was something my family was very much against stand you know they had -- they -- have -- say.
And you wouldn't as you said recently -- you wouldn't be close to the idea of being on somebody else's take it as a running back.
Now on the net that don't bill intended not looking forward not gonna happen and so would -- about some less than they can think about.
The candidates playing it safe value these debates is one going on right now as a matter of fact sponsored by function using Google.
Are they playing it safe -- candidates that are running now.
Well I've had this to an exchange about a little something that that idea.
-- told me a little bit lately you know in in an ironic way I believe.
That -- really have for sometime but really these days -- the president's been very serious shaped.
In its hopes for re election.
The there's obviously the economy -- In bad shape than and I hope -- -- but I did I don't see getting better anytime soon there hadn't been his policies as.
As far as I'm concerned it's demonstrably failed and and I'm a little worried that people on my side whoever our nominee is might.
Conclude that look I can get elected as the default option other -- for me I'm not him.
-- this point I think that and by the way it's very early.
You know that we can do we can do better we can weekend.
Tell America not only the depths of our problems in the diagnosis but it did in specific.
The kind of changes we need to make.
All of us together to to get get.
I don't tell about a proposes new book but but tell -- what do you like up there in that stage to who among those -- running do you prefer.
I like a lot of my the united I don't know ball but the one -- like a lot I think there it is there.
Several of the character in the skills to be president again that the -- I'll get the most excited about is the one who.
As I see it -- Americans.
Believes in our capacity for self governance.
Is willing not just to.
-- stay -- with those things that -- safe but to.
That -- say rather boldly looking -- the kind of things we needed didn't here's why it's good for all of us and -- let's -- Between Perry and Romney Rudy prefer.
I don't have a choice right now I -- -- I think both good man and you know Obama has on the net and -- other internally it -- to -- is one closer to you in terms of policy.
Good try but you know I really don't.
I can't separate -- that this pointless argument the things you dug a new book you -- -- entitlements.
So well as well as write the book in this somewhat -- about it -- -- realize what it was I mean it's understand why we've been -- and that the script or did.
Did it it means that the weighted laws are written it yet.
If you meet a certain description -- you're in but.
-- I think that that's in terms of one of the big questions.
I believe we have to confront what kind of people -- we going to be here.
That some guys say somewhere in their new creatures of dignity are objects of therapy.
You know do you believe that Americans.
At all stations of life.
Aren't able and then and entitled -- to make their own decisions are not and so I think somewhere in there that.
Best -- -- -- the founding documents to this country what were entitled to his life liberty and the pursuit of happiness in the protection of of.
Our ability -- you don't object to a social safety net.
No I supported very very strongly that what I liked about want to make here is that.
Eight and this is not something you're born with in this country this is something we have chosen to do thank goodness.
As a generous and compassionate people.
But that also means that.
Can reconcile with our national means in our ability to pay for it and at least Minnesota conclusions that I venture that end of the book.
A Social Security you -- -- it means testing for Social Security but what about -- you start off in your career you start paying into it.
You don't know when you're twenty something starting off when you're gonna -- -- when you're sixty or seventy something to how do you mean says something where we don't know the end game this.
Well you personally quick -- the American people it's always been a page ecosystems you -- never ever putting money aside for yourself.
And that this is called like that I cited in the book.
They even by the proponents of the system called the noble lie like a repository built collide the American people.
But some folks did this because they thought.
That all Americans -- only supported if they understood it that way I think that sells America short we're the most generous people on the planet -- And that He answered your question is I believe fervently that Americans will always support a system that says.
A world and a chipped it and were not a living but he'd be destitute their later years but that doesn't mean -- to send checks to millionaires when there's not enough money.
Let's go -- we should concentrate these resources.
On the people.
Who need -- most always by the way -- -- with the proviso that.
I don't favor and friend to change -- favors doing any thing.
That that affects people now on the system -- -- to enter it we're talking about changes.
That would create.
A sustainable system for the younger people coming along you know -- -- for a decade or more.
The people who were paying for today's retirees.
-- -- you would pay him though I would guess of -- starting your career would you only then stopped paying in at a certain point we started making money your.
Had -- you cry at how do you moving toward the system you want it to -- Doesn't change from today it is was it would do -- changes to the money goes.
Out to do you know not paying -- -- you're paying per day for today's retirees always been that way you and so you would continue to an actor that the right thing to do.
But when when the nation's debt headed for bankruptcy.
Yet it stops sending those -- the Warren Buffett people like him.
You gotta give -- -- to concentrate their resources on the people we care about those that.
Wanna make sure it's -- or rich person who got rich after paying a lifetime in the Social Security I'm sorry not gonna get any of that money that's gonna go to somebody else.
Yeah would do you would I would say He you know be glad -- live in a society that cares about.
Each other and that -- to make sure that those who who really need it are protected.
And if you don't need it and they you know why would you demand money from a from.
-- fellow taxpayers with a nation that has.
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