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Texas governor Rick Perry was hit for his views on immigration and Social Security in the economy.
Here He is on his relationship with former president.
And the former governor of Texas George W.
We had a great report.
I talked to the president from time to time.
Calling on his birthday wish you happy birthday talked doing.
On a relatively regular -- I highly respect the president and his.
Public service well here is a man who knows both of these men very well in his first reactions -- a fox debate last night Karl Rove good morning to you the former senior advisor.
And deputy chief of staff for President Bush and a fox has contributed and there are an Austin how you doing today good morning.
I'm doing great a lot of people debate yeah a lot of people are wondering about the strength of that relationship you you're you're welcome to go there if you want but I just -- -- a generic sense here.
How did you score this debate last night was there a clear winner.
Well use it when you have nine people on a stage -- never have a clear winner there are winners there -- people who held their own and there are people who had a bad night.
I think there were about four people who had had a good night.
Romney was steady and solid landed some good shots and who knew -- had a sense of humor Rick Santorum got the better -- -- exchange on immigration.
And again he's been a pretty good consistent performer in these debates and including foreign affairs.
Herman Cain had the best personal moment of the evening when He talked about a struggle to overcome cancer and how He.
Felt this receiving the reflected on our health care system and particularly his opposition Obama care.
And then Newt Gingrich always comes across in these debates as.
You know the most knowledgeable guy on the stage.
Bachmann had needed have a break caddie He did didn't but on the other hand she she stood her ground on the HPV and avoided.
Admitted what everybody knows which is she made a mistake on.
A -- that the HPV vaccine.
The mental retardation and in the rest of India governor Perry didn't breakthrough last night He needy he's had a so so performance He started off strong -- -- good start at the beginning.
With a question on the Texas economy but you know as as one observer reported about more -- 42 He begins to fade some some other -- suggested this morning on.
A -- review online and may be.
Governor governor Romney should insist on three hour debate since the longer it goes -- The more the more problematic He gets a number of people -- They about that this morning that He that He does not finished strong in the second half and again last -- -- -- example of that.
-- that's a generic question now specific.
About this relationship with a former president.
He mentioned that He disagreed with him on Medicare part do you think you cut -- Medicaid last night and also He disagree -- No Child Left Behind.
It is this a relationship that dogs him or is this something that can be clarify for these primary vote is trying to figure out -- -- look look.
These two men have a good personal relationship always have and always will their friends.
I don't think that was the problem for governor Perry last night it was you know He was asked the question where you differently in the identified two areas.
Prescription -- The difficulty there is two -- minor difficulty is is that look that passed the house with 204 Republican votes and 25 Republicans opposed to pass -- senate.
With 42 Republicans in favor.
Not opposed No Child Left Behind passed the house a 18635.
Among Republicans in the senate 436.
So -- on the wrong side of that that equation at least at the time -- -- -- But here's some more problematic thing.
He said last night that He was very vocal on Medicare part.
I frankly -- all due respect to the governor don't remember that.
I hope that He didn't -- -- you know last -- He had them -- his best moment was when He talked about how He was lobbied by 31 year old.
Woman with cancer.
In support of the HPV decision will Jonathan Karl of ABC news is already pointed out.
That He met with a woman after He signed the order she could lobby and decided he'd already signed it.
I suspect -- people -- at the various news organizations today doing lexis nexis searches to find out if governor Perry was very vocal about Medicare part.
Rearranging the facts on that -- well.
Well eight you don't look He said He was very vocal I don't remember him being very vocal I don't remember it being an opposition to an -- bag -- -- -- I don't have perfect knowledge that.
I I I would remain I think I'd remember if the governor of Texas Tech I think we all remember if the governor of Texas stood up.
And attacked the Republican president who is his predecessor.
Four trying to pass Medicare part.
It you know unity in you could say look I disagreed with his decision to -- these things but when you say I was very vocal in my opposition of Medicare part.
And I was vocal in my opposition No Child Left Behind you've now set a bar of evidence it's had probably cause some reporters what's -- take -- And on and on the vaccine to it's clear that He had a relationship -- a close relationship with this woman with a time -- needs to be sorted out.
That is murky for the moment but I I just -- to get to this final point because Charles Krauthammer last night said that He is still the rookie in the field.
And I keep coming back to why these candidates live in Iowa New Hampshire for a year -- two years of their life.
Because they hold town hall meetings eight times a day and they take the same question.
Forty different weights so they get the practice and rehearse their answer so when it comes to prime time.
-- -- Now He has not had that just yet because he's the -- after the race can He sort that out in your view.
Sure sure -- -- -- let me say.
That -- even even going to do and a lot of town hall meetings helps prepare you for the debate.
But the best thing to -- and help you practice for big debates like this is to have they haven't done a lot in the past look.
In 1998 when governor bush was running for election He had one debate.
In retrospect that was a big mistake because.
There weren't a lot of presidential debates in the primaries in 99 united 2000.
But bush didn't fare particularly well once and some of them because He didn't have the experience of any -- before that time is exactly right you need that experience shut up Karl thank you -- -- -- time we'll talk again okay his first reaction to our big debate last night Karl -- live and -- and thank you -- -- -- -- -- --
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