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Taking out the next generation of Al Qaeda

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    With the future gone, what's next for Al Qaeda

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-- now with me today in the studio.

-- -- contribute -- Ellis Henican Jim Pinkerton.

And on national security analyst at KT McFarland and -- straight to you first KT how significant is this bigger than getting in line.

Upper actually it is bigger and getting bin Laden because.

A locking -- future.

You know bin Laden think about bin -- when He died He was -- man wearing dirty clothes sitting in a room without windows looking at.

Porn tape sent in tapes of himself.

That's the past and -- the future our Lackey he's on the Internet he's a cyber terrorists.

He recruits on the Internet He trains on the -- -- raises money on the Internet.

Any plans on the -- if He was the future and -- to teach him out.

You really take out you know the next generation of al-Qaeda why because He won't be able to recruit.

It because he's not around and the other thing is that if you're young.

Angry Muslim what narratives are you looking -- you got -- in your head.

You've got September 11 you've got al-Qaeda even slightly you know what -- they had failed Times Square bomber.

Failed Christmas Day bomber dead bin Laden and Al locking and what -- have on the other hand air spring barriers remain -- tracker romance.

But -- now for you asked -- she wannabes so I think this is really significant.

And significant Tuesday.

The although.

Included important to get killed in this fire and -- as we understand although those figures often change yeah but -- -- com.

Now He was the man who was producing this inspire magazine the web based magazine very slick production is clearly going to recruit around we'll ending the.

Lifestyle magazine if you wanna -- -- after some.

Miserable guy and grannies basement -- have much of -- like you thought of that magazine in your kind of attracted to it.

You meet other friends like that online it's almost like if she -- -- get to be heard -- it's a lifestyle that you can.

Aspire to and -- -- ultimately become operational in Dallas.

Big day while the yes side I like the analogy of the with the GQ with -- al-Qaeda and piracy and end it -- -- on several levels on the -- he's pointed out I think sort of technological and communications aspect of it.

But also the fact that all these guys are American born right -- remote comes from New Mexico the other from queens of the North Carolina.

And it reminds us.

That's ultimately the battle with al-Qaeda.

He's not so much of battle with foreigners coming to hospitals and battle with an ideal concept of view of the world what it is going to follow that people want to live like do we want -- -- in the dark -- if we wanna live in the future and reminds all of us I think.

That while these weapons these drones in these -- tax and crucially important in this effort.

As important really is the battle for hearts and minds convincing those young kids out there that we have a better way than those other people -- -- is that at that point that does is making you can kill the leaders.

We don't necessarily -- ideology.

Right I think the ideology will survive this attack.

The ideology is what hundreds of millions of Muslims around the world think or at least sympathize.

And I think.

You a lesson as we can learn out of this is -- technology works.

And we have pretty good technology is stopping people from coming and we are pretty good technology for bombing them -- drones and from afar.

What seems to be failing frankly is the hearts and minds I don't think we're doing very well Afghanistan.

I'm not convinced we've made any real change in Iraq.

And I don't think that that this -- -- make anybody in Yemen like this better again we did what we had 200% for perhaps offer the American military and engineers who designed these.

Cruise missiles.

But let's not get ourselves.

The people watching the sun -- -- in Yemen or Iraq or Afghans are Egypt are gonna say what you would now like America.

They're pretty -- -- Everest because.

And the not himself said that if you've got the strong horse in the week course everybody chooses a strong horse.

Now what does this tell you though skies Al kind of -- -- -- course so maybe we don't win hearts and minds but what we do is discourage people.

From going to the week course.

-- really look at the suicide bombers in Afghanistan I mean they're they're they're.

I mean He didn't go to don't know I killed in a cause and -- -- build the weak or strong personality doesn't quite quite as it was a bomb hit just.

Operationally though.

88 significant because you you can name is somebody else is the lead up look for them to -- ever to inspire and organize the pulse is a different.

These guys in -- -- -- you know Eric L hockey has unique characteristics it will not be repeated the story -- be repeated quickly.

He was there from the beginning if you look at the September 11 commission report He was all over that He met with the September 11.

Hijackers He was part of all of those raids going forward for the party to -- and actually USS -- So there won't be somebody was back how to Buffy days and He started -- it was only party when He died.

He was in his late twenties early thirties when He was doing all these things.

And he's an American citizen and He had a unique way of it -- appealing to American and British and English speaking.

Lone wolves so to me that's the significance because the next wave isn't going to be some big -- -- we've prevented that we know how to track the money.

That's probably not going to happen.

The next wave is a whole lot of individual homegrown terrorists particularly English speaking of passport carrying Americans or brits and that.

It's who He was connected once again one thing I don't want to.

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