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Chris Stirewalt and Rep. Allen West (R-Fla) discuss the 2012 GOP field
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- Date Oct 3, 2011
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Chris Stirewalt and Rep. Allen West (R-Fla) discuss the 2012 GOP field
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I've run into people -- the -- -- actually -- 999 plan with the some.
Black -- that I run into not all we keep our own little informal poll.
They won't even take my little nine men and brochure because on that conservative on that Republicans I call that being brainwashed how can they make up their mind against something when they don't know would -- That's why this top tier Republican presidential candidate -- -- It is 999 plan by the way as He defends his position.
That many American and African Americans black voters are brainwashed.
And this is power play an Internet we're so glad to have you with us today here in studio three in Washington -- having it is safe -- veritable Monday morning -- many.
And -- joining us it in this -- many occasion is Stephen Hayes a disease that mean anything yeah later amid gotten not off the top and we don't it is yeah.
It's singing there's dancing it would be akin to a barn dance yeah if you're gonna -- -- -- the numbers it's by the members -- spike and because that would probably also be wearing my car heart overalls when did that.
And then you have what we'd like to call a can't miss situation but Steven Hayes is.
Senior writer for the weekly standard.
And one of the smartest writers on American politics working today.
And so we are we're very happy to have you with us today to be here because it's -- confusing.
And we will Internet I -- to be joined soon by congressman Allen west who was making his way to the -- world headquarters.
And -- over on Capitol Hill.
And He will be with us soon.
But I want to talk about permits a little bit.
And I was just done with Jon Scott and -- Lee.
And we were talking about why Herman Cain is so popular now what's the -- prescription -- Why -- -- -- -- -- I mean I think he's been speaking to a side of the Republican Party side of the Republican electorate that others haven't addressed frankly and I think that's part of the problem and I think we've seen this in earlier manifestations whether it was Donald Trump a little trump -- or Sarah Palin maybe before.
And Michelle -- around the Iowa straw poll -- I think that the mood of the conservative activists.
Wing of the Republican Party which is the dominant wing of the Republican big kick.
Is.
One of confrontational conservatism now they wanna be in the president's face they wanna be making these arguments as forces -- as they can't.
And they don't want tinkering I think -- what you're getting from some people from from Mitt Romney in particular that.
Doesn't appeal.
To a lot of these conservatives is tinkering so what are you gonna do about.
The tax system what do you do a tax reform and Ronnie wants I -- sensible positions must lower corporate rates most of his -- -- -- 59 point plan exactly 160 some pages that we expect that every once a week and Marshall interest rates -- wants it to tweak and dividends and cap.
These guys that Barack Obama is a bad management basically Mitt Romney's fundamental argument is yes not an ideological argument but -- -- -- -- nicely He says that He can be He can be a better CEO for America than Barack Obama.
Or somebody like -- McCain or Michelle Bachmann or Ron Paul or whomever comes out and says there -- an ideological failure and that's what Republicans want it seems absolutely logical -- you're very smart you put it that much.
But -- much better than well rather well right now we -- now that we've heard we heard this great truth telling from Stephen guests don't go ahead Narnia.
I think that's exactly right you can be you know Charles Krauthammer calls it is because -- date.
Who was stewardship election has been saying this is -- stewardship election and then when you look at the economy look at jobs numbers and things like that people judge President Obama based on his poor performance and I agree as as I often do I agree with Charles but I think He doesn't go quite far enough I think it's a stewardship election and that's an ideological election and this strength of the Republican Party right now the intensity of the Republican voters.
Comes from voters who are ideological first -- YouTube.
As wise as you are and as esteemed as you are we will now be joined please take out in western world famous.
Florida congressman Alan west.
Congressman how we doing today.
Well I mean I am Alan west I don't know about -- world famous.
All come on now you are.
In many many ways.
The poster child the face of the 2010 election and the changes brought to Washington you were Tea Party before Tea Party was cool.
You flip -- district down in Florida from the liberal Democrat to conservative Republicans -- outspoken.
-- the as they said about the product tough on communism channel on carpets.
So we appreciate you being here with us.
Now Chris.
Before you joined us.
We heard any power plays not one that likes to do identity politics but you sort of have a special insight on this.
As a black Republican who took your -- heat.
For using the phrase plantation to refer to the hierarchy.
Of the democratic leadership you're a member of the Congressional Black Caucus but that is not been a pleasant relationship.
In many ways.
Herman Cain has taken some heat because he's talking about racial politics and He called black voters brainwashed.
How do you feel about that is that okay or not okay.
-- I think the the use of the word Brian -- maybe what people take some.
So much challenge too good when you look at what has happened with the black community when you look at what happened in 2008.
We had about 95 about a 6% of African American community support the president.
-- yet now you see sixteen point 7% unemployment the black community.
You -- 20% unemployment -- black adult males 45 to 46%.
Unemployment for black cut teenagers then there -- some questions -- have to be answered.
And for the president to stand up before the quote unquote relief -- black political and economic and intellectual capital.
They say that people need to take their bedroom slippers often stop complaining and groaning and moaning.
I think that they have some very legitimate concerns because they're not seeing.
Their policies that -- and now the Obama administration having a positive effect in the black community.
When you definitely see almost double.
The unemployment rate nationally so I think that the challenge that we have to say.
To the black community is you have to start doing -- Doctor King say it is to start judging people by the content of their character not by the color understand.
You also have to start.
-- investing yourself across the entire political spectrum and not just a one party who takes you for granite.
Okay now one more thing on this and we'll get out of this plane.
-- also.
On FOX News Sunday.
Hit Texas governor Rick -- because.
Land lease for a hunting camp.
That they had that in Texas had a word painted on Iraq that obviously we don't say because it's discuss and let me know what the word is in mr.
-- hit governor -- for that.
Is governor Perry -- did He do the wrong thing is -- in hot water here is as bad news for him.
Well first of all I would say that we don't need that type of back and forth in the process we need to be talking about.
Who is the best person with the best vision and principles to go up against president Barack Hussein Obama.
And -- three victors so we can get consumer confidence.
Confidence in our private sector and our small businesses back in the right direction and as well restore foreign policy.
So I'm not gonna get into a back and forth between mister -- and missing governor -- that's between them.
And that's why you are the world famous Allen west that's why the conservative movement -- you that much because you have those kinds of answers.
Okay let's get to the meat of the subject the president says pass my bill He has a 450 billion dollar stimulus package coupled with the two trillion dollar tax increase on upper -- He is working very hard to increase pressure.
On you and your fellow Republicans in the house.
You have been advantage to to a significant degree by the fact that didn't senate Democrats won't cooperate with the president -- what are you start.
Are you starting to feel the heat a little bit down in swing state Florida.
No I'm not feeling any sort of sort of -- because.
Down -- swing state Florida down South Florida once again you have unemployment.
In the South Florida region.
Just a little bit above 11%.
So we're now looking to have another mini -- stimulus passed up here.
You know the thing is government does not create wealth government does not create jobs -- government has to do is set the conditions.
For our private sector for small businesses to be able to grow and that means the right type.
Fiscal policies monetary tax and regulatory policies and that's not where we're getting.
It means that our small banks need to be able to provide access to capital.
To our small businesses but when you look at the dog front -- our small banks to not being able to do that so the president is going in the wrong dar re excellent.
And when you think about how Bill Clinton -- it.
After the mid term elections defeat that He so 1994.
What we see is a president that is doubling down and his really intensified his rhetoric to this point of this class warfare -- was saying.
You look at what's happening up there on Wall Street -- these young people who really be in this way it and people such as some Michael Moore who come on saving capitalism.
-- destroying America will capitalism is what built America so I think that the president needs to take heed to the fact that Harry Reid does not want to bring.
The American jobs -- senate floor that Dick Durbin came out -- He does not have enough votes but Democrat senators with a whip count there.
And we've got to get away from this fair share talk because it's very simple it is math.
When you have 53% of wage earner households -- -- America paying a -- percent of the federal in -- taxes here.
There's a huge 47% -- our shareholders.
-- last thing congressman.
Do you have a presidential preference beyond not Obama I know I know that you don't want for him for a second term -- in your party it does anybody guilty particularly.
Well I think we're still kind of feeling things out you know when you went -- you -- Florida presidency five debate.
And governor appeared did not who do so well and also when you have to surprise upset of her McCain getting 37 point 1% now believe.
So now a lot of focus on him I think to today people -- saying that.
Governor Chris Christie's put together -- campaign seeing so this field is not settled as of yet but I do say that.
You probably got maybe -- 45 folks that need to a fade away and so you can -- the top four people there really are do have a chance.
Gently into that good night and congressman we thank you so much for being with -- have a great Monday thanks Chris thanks for him.
Hi Steve case.
We will talk more about Chris Christie.
There's -- evidence.
Of Chris Christie soon end and we want to get your take on that Internet you know a lot of stuff.
So please tell Steve and I what you think you can go in the chat.
Or you can hit me -- had viewers say directly.
-- -- are well on Twitter we would love to hear from you.
And one point.
You know.
Brit Hume who is maybe -- smartest man in American politics He knows more and has more context for everything.
He's He said of Chris Christie.
-- is the the car that did this if the dog catches that car don't know what to do with -- for old folks.
Who want to run you you think He is on the being there are wrong there maybe some truth of that all right Internet you've heard what He said you heard what -- said.
Get in the chat hit me on Twitter and do that now.