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Does it mean to be religious where does religion come from and that's -- would -- calls violence.
These are now there are thought provoking questions rabbi David -- takes on in his new book why faith matters.
And Robert -- we joins me now from Los Angeles.
Welcome -- Thank you.
Pleasure to be here horrible it's it's it's wonderful and free to be here especially on this day because it is younger port.
Turn the holiest day the Jewish year and I -- I want to welcome you and it's attending period.
Reflection and atone for sins and I guess what I wanna start there because is this part of the human condition that at some level we all.
Every culture kind of decides that He must be something done to atone for sense that somehow we're not perfect.
Well I mean every every human being I think in every culture understands on a deep level.
That we're not perfect and there's a deep -- need.
For XP -- for people to be able to confess what -- is that they do wrong.
And to receive forgiveness because all of us need over and over again in our -- to start a new.
Yeah you know a lot of people say these -- -- spiritual not religious and that statement really is packed with a lot of the philosophical and deep -- understanding of what they believe religion to be but you know in reality when.
What are they saying what -- mean to be spirit what does it mean to be religious.
When someone says to me that their spiritual not religious I always want to ask them how much money you give to charity.
Because what religion is is the organization of spirituality to do things in the world.
A lot of religion happens in committee meetings and a lot of religion happens in organizations and through budgets and through.
Sending people off to remote areas to do good work.
So religion is the attempt to take this spiritual impulse which is the deep soulful belief.
In something greater than oneself.
And to send it marching into the world to do good.
I always think you've got to be religious because even though other people will sometimes.
Have friction against -- gender your ideas -- so -- that's how we make progress in this world.
Interest is using auto critics say that the religion comes from variant of that famous Karl Marx statement religion is the -- Graham of the people.
But you know what's the source -- this need for religion.
There's fear -- a lot of what people do religion and other things but really religion comes from joy and appreciation and wonder.
And beauty and a sense that God's world needs to be fixed and it gives you the motivation to do better because.
Religion offers a vision of the way the world should be.
And because we sense that it falls short.
We want to make it better.
But most deeply.
You look in the world and you feel the poetry and the prayer.
And the sense of song and wonder.
And that's what motivates most religious people is the wonder of God's world not the fear.
You know out of -- your personal story because you tell a story about virtual Russell -- an avid follower of this atheist philosopher.
And yet it was one of -- your greatest disappointments and and and it essentially Begin your journey to faith -- about that.
Well I'm Russell was logical and smart and reason.
And an as an adolescent I thought you know if you just -- logical enough and strong enough you can figure this all out you don't need -- But as I learned more about his life and I realized what a complete mess He had made of his life.
I saw that you need something deeper and -- human logic that you need a certain emotional wisdom.
And as I met people of faith I realized that they were often some of the strongest smartest people.
That I met that it wasn't a function of -- needing a crutch as I said before it was a function of their seeing a dimension of existence.
A sense of the world that is somehow broader and more colorful.
And that I would want it to be able to see that in my own life.
Through all the things that have happened to me in my life through having gone through bouts of multiple bouts of cancer disappointments and difficulties as well.
As being a rabbi and seeing other people who both have triumph and suffered.
What I've seen is that -- actually makes life deeper.
And more beautiful.
And it's not an easy out it makes demands on you but there.
Sold growing demands.
What you think that there are some people like you.
When they get to atheism they turned to face and then other people really don't they released a very satisfied whether it isn't it Richard Dawkins and Christopher hitch and sends items that are the four horsemen of it is and why is that.
Death well I've had you know the opportunity many times to debate with Christopher Haitians -- with Richard Dawkins and others and Sam Harris and and before and after of course you have an opportunity to talk to them.
I always think that at least a part of it has to do with modeling.
It depends who you meet -- -- examples of faith are they come into your life.
Because if early on or even later the examples of faith are people who.
Our rigid or can't listen in or don't resent or not open -- and it makes you think that all of religion is that way.
-- I was -- very lucky my father.
Who passed away a few years ago was a rabbi and He was a warm wonderful open.
And loving man and so it gave me a model that I still cherish.
You want to things about your book Tina say in how important doubt is -- Newark you said that and of course the guys -- your wife faith matters is if -- faith.
Fears questions -- robust face welcomes the.
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