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    Former Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) joins Alan to discuss the economy and the Occupy Wall Street protests.

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-- congressman Alan Grayson.

-- website -- congressman with -- not come.

He that is -- to couple events with -- president in Orlando today.

Yes that's right just got back from the second event certain people or delighted if you the president.

-- -- her reaction is He getting a warm reception.

Absolutely I mean he's the -- the United States you've got a good record to run the only -- -- you've -- many.

Practical ideas about how to make things better.

And ACC could be getting letters this is even from Democrats in the house in particular is -- was got a majority.

They don't seem to be helping.

Well look you know the question this point there we're gonna do so they're gonna do not -- the Republicans couldn't do nothing party they may be able to triple a couple of do nothing Democrats.

But -- so what is the Republican plan to make the economy better.

There isn't one there just isn't one they're going to be invisible and it magically going to make everything okay when that hasn't worked it's not going to work.

And it's I but I also think He needs -- more help from other democratic side as well.

You know -- in terms of the jobs bill and it seems like He has come up with this -- got -- it's got ideas that Republicans have traditionally voted for and he's getting resistance from even Democrats -- Well it it's because you think that that they would get the message that the public good feeling a lot of pain and you know got -- we've got 24 million people now in this country can't find full time work.

And fifty million people can't see a doctor when they're sick.

You can bet that would be enough to get congress to actually act but you know I -- -- be clear about that it's the Republicans in congress -- the impediment right now.

Not to Democrats.

-- the president gets the support of 90%.

Of the Democrats and 0% Republicans it's pretty clear -- holding -- back of the sport.

-- you last time we spoke shortly thereafter announcing you're gonna run again you are gonna get Begin to seek your old cedars are gerrymandering going on in a different slightly different area.

Well all that all the feature going to be different Florida we have two additional seats -- we passed the fair districts Florida amendments.

Which will try to cut out a little bit on the gerrymandering in Florida we have 600000.

More Democrats Republicans.

And yet we have nineteen Republican congressman and six democratic congressman look so bad -- admit that -- Florida.

And the passage of -- districts Florida means that that will come to an end.

So logically will see additional democratic -- I I live in Orlando Orlando is an overwhelmingly democratic area orange county and -- 100000 were Democrats and Republicans.

But we don't have a democratic got congressman so the gerrymandering over I think that struggled via a -- got a -- becomes book.

Well what do you think.

Before you and other things it given the fact preliminary figure and a democratic area -- you didn't retain your seat.

Well the Democrats -- look -- -- -- primary element is what we've discussed before they are Democrats Lester just didn't vote.

Democrats don't don't vote -- Democrats can't win and that took what adjuster in my district is true all over the country in general in Florida.

We -- 25 congressional district in Florida the democratic -- that was in the low forties.

And the Republican -- -- -- in the mid sixties.

And -- you know in that situation and -- part of Democrats have I gotten every democratic -- which came close to doing.

And every independent vote in my district -- still at a -- because the Republican -- it was so overwhelming.

And the Democrats just didn't show up but it wasn't just my district that was true.

It Ohio it was true in Illinois it was true all over the country except for New England in the West Coast.

All right so.

You know.

A year on real time of the did you did a great gently on a single abuse world.

And.

And innovation in the history of the show or -- and it was yeah renovation there.

And I think the issue is there's an I'm my Harden sentiment is certainly with the protesters.

But every critical of the fact that they haven't articulated a message as clearly as perhaps a Tea Party years have but I think you did a great job of doing that.

On real time would you agree that maybe they need a more focused message in order to get to the next level.

Oh I I think the messages focused and not I mean listen it's occupy Wall Street -- occupy a Central Park or occupied grants true.

There occupied Wall Street and the reason for that is.

There are several recent first street doesn't Wall Street wrecked the economy in 200620072008.

And no one has been -- it true that not a single person.

Has been indicted or convicted even though 20% of our national -- was destroyed in the course -- eighteen months.

Nobody's -- and it's -- that.

And the second reason is that Wall Street actually has established a system in America are unbelievable inequality.

If you go in Wikipedia you'll see that all the countries in the world.

After only four countries in the world -- -- as unequal in term of of wealth distribution and the United States and it's not working well in Zimbabwe either.

Yeah audio we've we've created a system where we have enormous wealth from the hand -- few people.

And the rest of us can go to hell yeah.

Millions of people in America who don't have a -- who don't have health coverage you don't have a pension don't have an -- don't have any way to put their children through college.

That's the enormous staggering equality that was established in propagated.

And discredited by Wall Street and the way they defended as a protest -- pointed out -- -- iron grip on the political system.

Wall Street determines our economic system that's how they were able to get.

Through and they would be the Federal Reserve sixteen trillion dollars in bailout money.

That's been jailed bigger not much bigger that's -- net result but when I joined with Ron Paul.

And got -- order a reserve.

They came out with a list of their -- it's sixteen trillion dollars that for these belt go -- every single man woman and child in this country.

So they controlled indeed -- the political system they get their -- they get their special tax breaks they get everything they want permit they control system.

By controlling the Republican Party entirely and by getting virtually every -- they want Democratic Party as well.

Well I want do you think these protests will have an effect on moving.

The ball down the field at all com -- had been in what way do you think that can happen.

It will energize the people to take back control of their lives.

They're the reason why you'd you'd have people doing what they're doing which is basically showing off.

Is because they feel at this point the system completely -- response -- Completely responsive at this point there -- -- their votes don't even seem to mean that much anymore -- dollars don't mean that much anymore.

They have no way to -- -- no way to show have a field to show their anxiety to show their pain except simply show up.

And meet other people who feel the same way and that's the very constructive purpose that these protests are actually performing.

Bring people together or like minded and desperate for the change that we thought we were gonna get in 2008 and many people feel we're still waiting for.

Does this then hurt or help the reelection of the president.

Oh I think you'll help I I think you'll help because the fundamental reason why democratic turnout collapse last year because people lost hope.

And now it seems that they're getting it back by.

By going to these events by it by showing.

Crypto there are other people feel the same way that they do good people like better not alone.

They're energizing each other.

And that will -- help the president that'll help any agent of change.

Who who is willing to articulate what their goals really -- -- it is getting you know people to the polls as you mentioned Robin San Ramon California with Alan Grayson -- -- around.

Yeah just like to say that.

This stop the Wall Street has done.

Under the current laws the -- not illegal therefore.

It's the start of the government for allowing people want to -- could not and forcing each other like Scott -- laws and I think this is why it's -- because he's trying to -- waterworld a public carpets do.

Actually I think that's stupid that's -- and sort of blaming the -- Wall Street has dominated and controlled.

Washington politics now for a generation.

And good yeah.

-- to complain the government committee at this point it is nonsensical alleged government has become a tool of Wall Street are manipulated popular Wall Street.

Wasn't the lack of regulation.

Engineered by Republicans that let Wall Street and the banks -- -- what they did for so long that led to the problem the first split.

But of course you can't even having functional banking system without regulation it's Gresham all the bad money drives up the good.

A bank says that 10% reserve requirement ends up losing out to a banquet 3% or requirement and that bank and the blue Pietro spent 1% or -- And -- -- 110 of 1% reader department and in the entire system.

Collapse it's it's a classic bubble.

And then what happens if you don't have regulation that banking system and it's happened over and over -- going back at sixteenth century Italy.

In Renaissance Italy it happened.

So -- there's no doubt that you need regulation of a functional bag to prepare the same thing after its secure its system if you can't sell stock nobody -- wanna buy stock at a company.

Unless you have the current regulations that we had to -- in 33 in the country.

You know well not you know let's let's hope this as evidence that lets -- it gets people out to the polls to vote for the president and to vote.

Four Democrats and progressive Democrats -- blue dog Democrats are blue dog Democrats part of the problem.

Well yes and as -- -- -- 2400 years ago just because you don't have an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics doesn't have an interest you -- I don't decline has pointed out recently what's happening is that the other side is taking people's pain taking that these horrible experience that people have -- can't pay their rent they can't give -- credit card.

They they can't they -- figure how to pay their adult taking this experience that that things are getting worse and worse and they're exploiting -- If you take away our -- -- security take away our Medicare take -- our Medicaid even our unemployment insurance.

We are about thirty seconds when we you know of -- know specifically where your district will be in.

And have an announcement about your future.

We'll start -- think that November but people should come to congressman with -- -- come.

And support the campaign right now even in the last two months from China -- -- over 111000.

People who contributed to the campaign.

111000 people joined Allen -- -- likely Allen's army's announcement that you've already got them when I think trademark that thank god knows levity it's like you think you -- on the program tonight.

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