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-- with coming up with a deficit reduction strategy have a little more than a month left before they're supposed to cross the finish line.
-- chief congressional correspondent Mike Emanuel reports it appears they're still stuck in the starting blocks.
Good rational sources say the super committee tasked with reaching a deal by Thanksgiving on saving at least one point two trillion dollars has gotten stuck on a key point.
The budgetary assumptions the baseline from which to start cutting.
Sources say Democrats -- -- user -- climate counts the expiration of the bush tax cuts up to 866.
Billion dollars in savings Republicans disagree.
One member of the super committee one not wanting to discuss specific says the group is trying to accomplish its overall mission this isn't the -- congress ought to operate but everything else having -- I think we ought to give this a shot.
Sources say Ohio senator Rob Portman keeps talking about tax reform but with a deadline looming most don't believe there will be time.
Some of the other members have suggested seeking an extension so they have more time to work.
And perhaps the side of impatience and some of complaints Senator John Kerry is talking too much in the closed door meetings.
Today the bipartisan gang of six.
Which spent much of this year seeking three point seven trillion dollars in deficit reduction met with the super committee members the message to them okay.
We want them.
To do their job and when they do their job.
And then make some bold choices we -- -- be their sport.
But sources close to -- -- committee say it's unlikely to use the gang of six framework it is more about making other lawmakers part of the process.
With thorny issues such as taxes cutting spending -- the possibility of addressing entitlements and colleagues at the super committee recognized the size of the task at hand.
But and some of with the overwhelming job that these folks have.
And let me tell you they are very very serious about.
The work that they have been challenged to do.
What progress by the overall committee has been slow sources say there have been some side discussions.
And with some convince house Democrats are not that -- -- cutting a deal the most likely scenario maybe finding seven to work with.
And then move forward -- -- -- a lot on the hill Mike thank you.
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