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Well ahead of tomorrow's official unveiling we are starting to get some specifics about Rick Perry's governments in flat tax plan -- looks something like this.
Up flat rate in the vicinity of 20% but.
It will be -- -- another with everyone doesn't have to participate Steve Forbes is -- -- -- -- but what -- my next -- think about it.
Indiana governor Mitch Daniels joins me now governor always good seeing you.
Should everybody be on board and everybody be in this -- where that gets to be like France right.
There's a value added tax we have this decides.
Well if you ask me what I think about these latest proposals -- like on there they all head in the right direction.
Lower flatter and more neutral get rid of all the in encrusted.
Preferences that have grown up in the codes in so we we did it successfully and Ronald Reagan's second term.
And -- money start finding its way to the place where might put somebody to work not where the tax code tells it to go.
No I agree on those counts governor I guess what concerned me and I guess the governor was spell it out himself.
Is -- -- you can either participated and not -- that keeps the existing system.
Are monsters you've appropriately mentions.
In it it it you know in its form -- Certainly -- -- gates has sent a wrecking ball to what we've got.
And starts of the different.
I do you think that beat.
Preferable but in you know that situation we're in now I keep saying whether the subject is tax reform or the reform of the safety net programs.
I deal may not be it's ideals not attainable let's go its second best.
No I mean I would I would prefer to see.
A the complete overhaul the system.
My guess is actually if you did what governor period.
You say is gonna suggest that the vast majority rather quickly would emigrate to the new system and -- might not have much practical difference.
I -- you know more than I do about this so I appreciate your to -- to me and what we're hearing but the talk is that you and and and Governor Perry.
Have -- -- great deal.
Is that just talk or do you do that would all the candidates -- I know them and -- come and -- talk -- -- when did they -- talk to me but no we have many great in depth the way that -- that it has very has sought you out on this specific is you don't.
-- -- talked about it in brief but you know like I wrote about it in this book that I published recently and -- and I called for.
A essentially a flat tax or as close to it as we can get so maybe he.
Knows but I think from that context.
On do you think.
As has Frank Luntz was here delineating that.
Rick Perry might be.
Hurting himself and whoever the nominee might be -- -- it is and so with with these personal attacks or -- -- certainly the Romney people take it's personal attacks and what that is.
Studio audiences as measured by Frank Luntz seem to construe as -- that it's gonna come back to.
I don't know the -- I certainly believe that they.
Would you -- -- better off without that in our politics.
And if you're if you're in pursuit of results.
So that it is best to bite one's tongue you know correct misstatements of course but not engage in in the back and forth and so's your old man that.
I don't think it'll make a lot of difference in the end what matters finally who will be Howell.
Our nominee conducts himself in the one on one of -- Obama and nobody is has proven a more.
Of personal -- in politics I'm sorry to say that our president.
When you you see these others were rising Herman Cain for example has proved more than a flash in the pan on a variation of a flat tax and does 999 plan it's been pilloried he's been ripped apart his numbers keep rising.
What do you make of that.
I think people are saying that they like candor that they like specifics that they stands even though no candidates certainly not the president not yet our own.
Has now fully leveled with people about the extremity of the situation wherein.
But they can sense that and therefore when somebody speaks.
Forthrightly about a very big bold departure that.
Has jobs and has economic growth of the private sector.
At its core like a mr.
Cain has I think there's an audience for that I think probably.
Governor Perry's gonna find a receptive audience with his somewhat similar suggestion.
You know governor you were nice enough to stop -- be with us -- Chicago -- doing our fiftieth anniversary show on -- one thing I notice of the crowds who were there.
Is how much that person like I almost thought you were governor of Illinois.
Our -- that crowd wanted you to date and then I started thinking of this.
The presidential race and how up for grabs much of the midwest as electoral a politically the whole nine yards and it's an -- where Republicans were weak.
Four years ago after all the president took your state.
Back in 2008.
So someone like -- would be very advantageous for a ticket for him and.
I don't know -- I sure had fun that day with you by day I'm a beautiful day by that.
The river and you know I love people and love the clown around with -- -- I do notice from time to time a lot of other people in elected office in.
Both parties -- little clumsy with that but down in India just comes naturally.
All right well the cloning around part.
You know dispersants to the president.
Vice president but there is a little bit more latitude for that being vice president.
-- interest that I guess.
They -- -- well I mean did to each his own what really matters is who's going to be president.
Fifteen months from now I believe it is a matter of genuine urgency.
And that had to be a huge change in national direction you know then -- the the president I've come to have concluded.
Will just simply never get it he thinks somehow that growing government has a positive as opposed to a negative effect.
On the lives of people at large.
The comments by a us senator Reid last week it is astonishing talking about private sector doing just -- we -- government we have spend more money on.
Do we the clock is ticking on our both our economic and are related debt problems and we just got that change direction in a big bold way so.
Even outnumbered they are not only tickets are you make a compelling argument so -- the nominee whoever he or see who it is.
Comes to you it says you you articulated vision and I know you could take up against Joseph Biden.
And take us all the way to the White House and you can be in -- in the naval observatory wonderful home.
What what do you -- Neil I thought -- was -- -- -- good job of -- black blasted out.
You weren't sure it may work well and you know again -- in all seriousness.
I'm not run it wasn't in the cards for me and my family.
I'm trying to.
What will matter is is what -- nominee.
-- for America how well he or she presents that.
And I do hope as as -- -- our earlier questions.
Pre figured that.
That that next next year's alternative campaign by our party.
Will be a bold one a clear one a specific one that talks about growing the private economy and -- talks about.
Meeting our debt obligations before they consume the American dream.
Governor -- supplies are again thank you sir.
Thanks -- well and even --
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