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Is This the 'Age of Ron Paul'?

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Joining us tonight in our senator -- feature Republican presidential candidate in Texas congressman Ron Paul congressman thanks for being here.

Thank you remember them we have started this.

Looking at them the position of course undersea gas we have a new Fox News poll out today.

And you'd take a look at this you or -- -- 9% in this new national poll you see -- Romney Gingrich comparing.

There at a new CNN time poll in New Hampshire has you in third at 12%.

And the same organizations.

In Iowa have you -- third and 12%.

What do you see as your path to the Republican nomination what do you have to do in these early states.

You know a lot of individuals come and go in these -- up and down and my support has been pretty steady and and continues to grow.

Talk to continue to do what I'm doing more so and we're very pleased with that we raise the money that we need I need to be out there campaigning -- We do our television.

-- that we have to do well we have directed most of our attention to New Hampshire.

And Iowa and -- you know the early states is that I would say that come January it'll be make or break force there's no doubt.

You just raised about two and a half million dollars on this money bomb and you've done this a few times to this one specifically points to.

What organizations that -- -- campaign black this out say is.

Not unfair media coverage and and that the -- -- you're trying to control the outcome of this election directed towards the media.

And we'll never cover and fair reasonable and journalistic manner the only candidate that can beat Obama so we have resolved to -- your efforts.

And you raise -- money do you believe you're getting.

Unfair treatment in the media.

I don't know.

I think it's eight times it's distorted.

But I don't know if I wanna use the word unfair because I know the media works I mean there there's one thing when I essentially -- you know and in Iowa for the Ames straw vote.

I mean it was barely -- sometimes it would be mentioned oh they know who's in first and third and fourth.

So the supporters don't panic if things go -- -- that they tell me about it.

But I I try to think about my policies are -- -- with the news that is just let it not for the record you have appeared on fox.

Since your announcement that you were running.

A total of 43 times and seventy times since January 2000 hello I'm sorry and and -- so we are.

Give you a lot of time on this -- Congressman I've I've spent some time over the past couple days with your plan to restore America and there is I think a lot -- -- -- Republican primary voters.

-- like eliminating government departments like education -- and others.

One thing that I think -- raise eyebrows is the cuts in defense spending some 200 billion dollars below president Obama's fiscal year 2012.

Levels.

Former Defense Secretary Bob gates said that such cuts would be catastrophic.

In terms of our capabilities.

-- I wonder why people should trust your judgment over that about -- What he's catastrophic is that what's happening to our debt in the world financial system and part of it is our military spending so don't cut the fans.

I cut military spending which -- from my viewpoint you know help our defense which we're all around the world spending a lot of money.

But you know even if we go down to the 500 or so billion -- -- would still be five times more.

Then that what China would have.

If you look at all our spending plus all our allies.

It's literally 7% of all the world military spending.

We have so many weapons -- -- who's going to attack us and always on the verge of invading -- -- attacking us.

So I think the crisis and finances is driven me for forty years 'cause I got involved in this because I saw.

What was coming once you you know weeks -- this new monetary system.

And everything.

Is apart of it all -- spending.

But you know this this sovereign debt crisis -- about to explode and but today I thought it was pretty high interest think.

To know that the or Spain in the history of the world.

Since a thirteenth century.

Is on the verge of going broke so that tells you how significant this is so I don't feel like I'm taking any it was single Wafer with -- I think we're strong.

You're with somebody like Bob gates in another uniform military leaders say that you're -- and -- Panetta and others in joint chiefs and chairman nominee.

Say that this is weakening America's capabilities I -- There's no question that would leave America a weaker nation know hey I don't know I -- just disagree with him but He also said that.

Anybody who thinks about another war another invasion easier -- him until.

So I'm trying to head -- off now I wouldn't do -- if I thought it was weaker.

I believe strongly in the constitution there's only one group that can have a strong national defense that's the federal government.

But I think the participation in bankrupting this country.

We'll will be defeated more by what's happening here with our finances -- another downgrade common.

I mean how can we continue to do this in -- you know in theory we're -- this money from overseas.

In order to keep this military operation going but I don't think for one minute we're gonna be less a matter of fact.

A lot of people could make an argument that we we could be more safe we concentrate on defending this country.

Worried about our borders and words are worried about fear now where the borders are between Afghanistan and Pakistan speaking banks -- You -- our congressman Paul I broke earlier this year this is the -- -- Ron Paul because you know you look back at the oh wait campaign and a lot of the things that -- -- for the -- -- you're now talking about smaller government that became the heart -- with Tea Party and the Tea Party movement.

Now as you watch the occupied Wall Street movement.

Do you see them as reflecting some of your anger and frustration with the -- and with the federal government Wall Street.

I do I don't think did you know I can say well everything is happening on occupying Wall Street is something -- that I fully endorse but I think -- this frustration.

I think it's -- frustration with the American people.

-- not just tired with Obama -- -- of the Republicans they're looking for something else so this is why in the election occurred last year with the Tea Party movement.

-- -- hasn't satisfied everybody this is why I.

Didn't like the idea when I think kaine said that these people are just -- -- get a job why blame the victims.

But there are some there there would advocate positions that -- that we might agree we should be -- I I indicate the market.

But I complained that this 1%.

Are very wealthy because they eat they get benefits through the inflationary system through the contract system to the military expenditure system through the bailout system.

So I should identify with them and a lot of them are anti Federal Reserve people that are there.

For some album just say well the solution is just raise taxes on the rich and they put everybody the same category -- -- who's made money is a bad person and I don't believe that.

Congressman on the issue of immigration this is what she said and and one of the debates take a listen here.

I -- this -- business.

He's resigned in May well be used against us -- keep us CNN economic turmoil that people want to leave with their capital.

And there's capital controls and -- people control every time you think of offense keep them all those bad people I'll think about those chances -- being used against us keeping ASEAN.

He has in.

Any piece of territory largest moment his fans staying there and for the purpose of keeping people in -- by textbook.

Definition.

A prison.

-- united states of prison.

-- -- I think you know there was a aren't current ones I think of what we're -- here is a financial.

-- iron curtain in a way where you can't travel back and forth.

I've lived on both borders side do not a medical training some in Michigan and something I and I lived in Texas.

And it was always nice that I could go back and forth no no passport so it's very difficult.

So in no way do we we usually excuse -- watching for the bad guys coming in of our country to control us.

-- currency and capital controls are very common when you get into.

-- cause I'm -- I'm thinking.

About the financial controls where you don't have freedom to leave and they already do exit have -- people who expatriate.

There there.

So you're you're offense reference Quayle I'm I'm I'm sick of -- party more in and finances.

-- -- you know if it deteriorates if if our system -- -- which is quite cable win this thing breaks down.

There will be more people control.

These ID cards you know the ID cards -- real ID card they had.

Well one reason why in the states in one like it will cost money.

That means you when I have to carry forward discriminating so we say we want to protect the borders and that so we end up with the idea -- was just this last week.

There there's -- -- when Tennessee.

You know I'd just like the TSA on our automobile.

-- in this century capital travels through computers.

Not in the suitcase cross the border you worry that Americans are going to be stopped at the border with the fans and not allowed to leave.

Financially I think they will even with computers they can put a lot of controls on about a defense that doesn't match no I don't -- -- need for offense that's suddenly stop the water transfer.

What well they they they can push financial controls saying they had wire transfers for years.

But they have -- you know the IRS knows what's going on you have to report everything.

So what I wanna do is bring all that money back not inhibit it from going up people people have a freedom to leave they should be able freedom and take their assets.

It's a well known fact now -- -- and the conditions are such.

Hopefully you're writing -- been nice if we can circumvent their desire.

But it's inevitable.

When -- financial crisis they put on currency controls and capital controlled.

I mean it's it's been annoying is that offense has never stopped to capitol war a money -- -- -- stops illegal immigrants either.