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I believe our final candidates -- this evening is here yes -- we have the former two term.
Speaker of the house who in 1994 helped usher in -- first Republican majority.
In forty years at that time.
He describes himself as a history teacher and as the author of at least eight books I may have missed one or two.
Or more than that -- subjects ranging from American revolution the American revolution to reforming the modern federal government.
Speaker who -- You've got some time for opening remarks -- Well let me assure all of you couple quick thoughts and I think you'll have a handout that is -- -- to sort of -- dot -- and the things we're doing there.
-- with the bases of the American system.
In the northwest ordinance of 1787 the founding fathers who are trying to organize.
Ohio Indiana Illinois.
Michigan or Wisconsin.
Morality and knowledge.
It is vital to have good schools.
And that leads to the federal government giving land -- the territories to organize and pay for schools.
Interestingly couple years ago.
When the capitol.
Visitor center was being developed.
The staff for whatever reason cut off the first three words.
And began knowledge -- -- I don't go back and plumbing problem.
And so -- suggest -- that that isn't there a sense of legend an antibody statement.
Of larger meanings of life than just secular.
So -- Jefferson writes an 1820.
Anybody who believes that you can be free and civilized without knowledge.
Is asking for something that's impossible -- never has been never will you paraphrase you know the exact quote.
We had a couple examples of my own career and didn't -- how much trouble or.
1983 the Reagan administration released -- report culmination rest said.
What we're doing -- our children so -- of a foreign power did -- -- considered an act of war.
And I went around the country as secretary balance -- hearings in governors gave me speeches and it was a brief flurry of reform -- And began to -- out and in the 1990s there was little bit of reform -- of Bill Clinton and I created the Hart Rudman commission -- spent three years looking at national security.
I'm looking out 25 years the most comprehensive -- since 1947.
The report says which came out in the beginning of 2001 before 9/11.
Reports as the greatest danger the United States as a weapon of mass destruction going off American -- probably.
By -- terrorist.
It says and I was amazed that this wasn't picked up it says the second greatest threats in the states.
Is the failure of math and science education -- the failure to invest in science technology.
And it is a greater failure than any a greater danger than any conceivable conventional war.
I don't know how to make it clear.
So are we don't just -- give you -- very brief.
Sort of mental imagery and then we'll get.
The normal discussions I have to say I am delighted to be here I am a big fan of jewel of the work he did the courage you showed.
It was a remarkable job.
And I think that to have -- and -- come here tonight.
The right kind of tend to be trip.
Does this is my word picture for -- If you -- battle -- -- a couple of years -- -- -- doesn't call the -- of information we suggested people ought to start with what -- your values.
What's your vision of success.
One of the metrics that would tell you what -- -- you're succeeding.
And therefore what are your strategies.
So if you took whatever you call education which I'd like to call learning doesn't like to distinguish it from the current bureaucratic unionized professional crisis.
So did -- of learning in America and you -- down on your own use and what are my values.
What's my vision of the successful learning America and I would argue should be prenatal care to civility.
There's -- backward and all learn all of our lives it's impossible to measure nineteenth century industrial.
If you don't -- yourself OK how what I know who achieve.
Moving the mattress of objective.
You would find yourself in a new world and anything you forget everything you think you currently nobody education he said just applying common sense.
How -- I organize.
You know a couple things -- would all the individual.
It would also be -- pulled forward that is alert the person needed to learn would be looking for the things -- needed to learn.
It would all mean in synchronous and people have learned when he -- Who have a huge component of online capability and mobile capability.
It would involve a great -- -- mentoring.
That would a great deal partnership.
It would probably not have -- Carnegie unit.
Would probably be achievement rather than process oriented.
You probably couldn't go ahead and mothers council bluffs.
Iowa State in -- about three weeks ago or two for -- fourth graders.
Had just scored in the middle of the senior class on the HTT.
She says they're now -- eight years of very great -- because authority totally -- So they probably wouldn't be.
Where we can't replace.
Mitch Daniels has passed a terrific small step in the right direction which -- -- you get a high school and less than four years you get a scholarship.
For the State's share of the cost of your high school.
For every year you get.
Just a little step in the right direction.
So I think I want to erase all the current assumptions and just leave it -- thought we should be in favor of the most rapid possible learn.
By the widest possible number of Americans.
Appropriate for what they need in order to be successful as citizens as family members as as economic.
Workers are producers.
Business owners and we should want to do it at the least possible cost with the greatest possible speed.
Now -- you design that you'll find -- bears almost no relationship.
All the things are currently trying to prop up.
Thank you mr.
speaker this is a lot to discuss it in those brief remarks.
But let me start a few references in it it's an interest things -- development year history professor.
Starting and really the first term.
Term the first President Bush threw me this time.
Presidency there's been a pretty strong fight -- Coalition.
Which work together and you mentioned we -- President Clinton.
Despite -- need to -- this education and hopefully -- have seen.
Both sides of the aisle working together opera that that a wise I -- -- island.
Second President Bush here senator -- George Miller.
-- now to -- frame and we're at a point.
A lot of Republicans.
And the unions.
Are saying let's send this fact of the states.
It's my perception accurate and if so this is good it's well.
Well I think your perceptions probably accurate.
Unions always wanted to send it back -- the states once there was any kind of -- us.
I think a large number of Republicans didn't -- -- vote for it but because it was early in the Bush Administration.
They felt constrained to do so because it was the president ran collision.
But it it violates all sorts of general -- prison premises and I think frankly.
While -- but you know I have a lot of respect for secretary Duncan I think and I worked with.
Secretary Duncan on getting more charter schools around the country actually -- -- the country.
With Reverend Al Sharpton.
And the secretary Duncan what was truly a fairly unusual trio.
As we say in New York what's up with that -- And I am one of the things we were able to do that that secretary Duncan fully appreciate it.
We should automatically get press coverage anywhere we went -- best for us -- of the three of us standing itself.
No it was it.
But it was a good plot that was a club one of the places relatively few places that you the president.
But what you get is inevitably gradual movement towards national standards.
Gradual movement towards more national confirming everything conservatives historically -- Gradually inch blade and starts to show up and I also think this was -- something -- failed -- in the -- and I tried speakers.
Get a number of my good friends and Tommy Thompson really launched the first -- -- them.
Actually working in conjunction with Jesse Jackson state -- -- was -- -- American -- state representative and a single mother -- thought.
That they -- -- -- parents have the right to severe job with a woman.
But I have really failed in the effort to break through the normal educational.
Mindset to suggest that there really are dramatic things happening the Florida virtual schools.
Which was Jeb Bush's -- these are really fascinating breakthroughs that offer potential war.
Dramatic improvements of learning in ways we don't -- understand.
But do you think so it's easy to be saying that you think the federal government does in fact have a role to play -- driving.
The reform process in the states.
And the localities through accountability provisions.
Didn't mean does -- What what I mean -- I do think there's probably fairly narrow research -- information dissemination little.
But I don't I don't start with the -- I think.
You can't understand the mess we're now him unless you understand how -- the progressive movements desire to professional wise -- to avoid local citizens.
Has shaped almost all of -- rumor.
And it's been -- steady drive for example go back and look at the role of parents in 19100.
And then look at the role parents play today and most school -- look at schools when they don't want parents to fill up.
Because you know they're not professionals.
They're not certified.
And I think I would suggest that in fact there's an older model that if you create the information flow.
The majority of -- not a 100% but a substantial majority would like their children to do better.
Among children of parents who don't care significant minority would like to do but.
And you can find ways to create tools that enable people to move more rapidly and -- of the dramatically more effectively.
Because the very structure of the current system.
Is extraordinarily inhibiting in terms of religion and I think when you live through this you go to.
And I people underestimate.
Between the schools of education the departments of education.
The union contracts.
The administrative bureaucracy.
How much we have now limited capacity for real innovation.
Well how do you.
Avoid the repeating the twenty years of us attempting to do this and running into those obstacles what are the what are the tools we have now.
What is the leverage we have now.
-- it -- to drive a faster rate of change and avoid those obstacles.
Whether -- number that you could mean you you could for example go through every bureaucracy of education.
With a very simple test are you affecting children -- not everybody is not Houston Oakland and new career you could take that amount of money put into a pot say.
All this will be spent classroom teachers if you agreed America.
-- we're not gonna give it to you unless you break up the current assumptions and go to America.
The ability to retrain or dismiss bad teachers and the ability to give merit -- good teachers is a small but very important -- -- I think Michelle retract that.
I think the union turned her down.
Look one of the great history here which you two because -- reaction is I don't think you can get this done -- remotely.
I think anybody says I'd like -- maximum out of education reform the union will tell me why would you go to LA unified waste your time.
The union is a conspiracy and defense of bad teachers at the cost of children so it so if you.
But that's -- specifically about unified and not totally unions in general including those that which of my votes as long distance.
This it seems to me it points that you use you -- -- -- -- your -- problem.
Then when you working with secretary gotten written -- -- out -- using federal money.
A program called racist opposite leverage -- try to overcome some -- Facility charter schools teacher valuation merit pay accountability.
Now as president.
Would you try to create those kind of federal incentives.
So that I'd I'd much rather -- Granite and go to the governors -- -- the governor's you have a -- I'd much -- have been Mitch -- invented his scholarship program with no federal incentive.
-- -- -- -- what's gonna happen and I think if I think until you recognize how much Sacramento was is a disaster.
Until there is a populist rebellion against bad government in California nothing good will happen.
If you block.
I think that's a fact that I think of -- say by the way having grown up at a time when California was the -- -- in the group and the future of America it is a tragedy.
What is happening in Sacramento and it is a disgrace.
That the people of California have not yet thrown everybody out insisted -- starting over.
Yes -- -- I want to talk about all of the let off.
But I appreciate you guys got one hand you've got a lot of let's call -- even -- and we have decided to.
Let me read your quote.
It's ludicrous to think.
That -- -- -- multiple multiple occasions in Alabama.
-- -- are really different.
In terms of math textbooks why can't you have -- scale -- national mark right now we have -- Texas textbook.
That's different from a California textbook that's different from Massachusetts textbook.
That's -- and that that quote from Bill Gates.
And that's what I was at and he knows that -- his -- industry.
That would imply that everybody -- -- -- one kind of computer with a one kind of program because look at the value of mass production.
He knows better than that.
His argument is his argument is that he wants to drive standards up across the board because some states are LA unified or Alabama or what have you -- falling behind and they're not living up to.
-- -- -- -- -- Alabama math textbooks.
Substantially -- this is two plus two not four in Alabama textbook.
I mean I don't know again I'm -- Georgia and I just actually did it take for Alabama group mine -- memory was when I would go to Montgomery and Birmingham.
That almost everywhere too closely before there was most of Washington but it was almost always true.
I was so let me start secondly why -- got a Bill -- even talk about text books.
Why isn't having jobs -- I testified in 1995 and that's why isn't -- and people thought I was nuts.
Why isn't every child in America got a device.
Which could resemble -- -- -- candle.
Which over the -- which in fact is less expensive than a textbook and which you can change the science parts to match up with current science.
You live in a world of exploding knowledge and you always bureaucrats and -- people who think they're brilliant who wanted to constrict choice.
To one national thing picked by one group and here's literally does.
It cripples the rate of innovation.
It is the exact opposite of market theory it is it is true and education.
Where you basically have now and Oliver -- -- Between the schools of education the large bureaucracies and the unions.
It created an anti choice anti competition anti innovation structure -- reactionary.
Behavior which is crippling the whole country.
-- a matter of policy two part question.
For excellence but it could be listening to you you would -- two choices.
Let's give people of dollars and let them choose.
I would like to have programs the -- -- well yet.
And -- a level while at the federal I'd like to give up block grants to states and as president I would advocate to every governor.
You need to create programs some states well some states want the states that don't actually goes -- how come they get the money and I don't.
You'll have huge brawls in the state legislature it'll be wonderfully educational and over.
But this is the -- this -- the key free societies have to think like a moving picture bureaucracy -- in terms of Polaroid.
Fundamental difference opens and free markets overtime free markets are enormously more productive -- static socialist models.
For 12 and socialist models dramatically more control.
And this is attention -- always so I would as president and I think you need to go to block grants -- I don't think.
You can you can possibly go to suddenly stopping all the things we have and I think the amount of dislocation -- But if you want to block grants I'd be very comfortable as president using the bully pulpit to suggest across the country that it that he had a pell grant model.
Which every liberal loves.
At the college.
Is actually very applicable from K through twelve and wouldn't it be great if -- children.
Got educated so they could then take advantage of the program and higher education.
You'd get allotments which -- accountability in other words what that -- -- California spent prudently poorly you're okay.
Well much much as I worry about sacrament on Albany I'm not -- Washington -- some groups and consumer.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- What is it appearances you have an obligation and well I would by the way we encourage governors to attack something like that Kipp school contract.
Where in order to get your your program the -- the teacher and the jobs -- Because I think the Kipp school model is a very persuasive model about how to help children actually get it.
Affecting your opening comments use but you know the -- speak there's like -- You talked about asynchronous when he was -- learning how to use it you must.
Hanging out on reverend it's like.
Let's speak from my religion.
Reverend Sharpton often -- around like nobody's increments.
That's a key part of his we -- -- that it Univision.
Get these kids now on cell phone device -- -- Obviously.
You're thinking about this could be 24 hours could be you Mountain View around your feet give some more but some meat on the -- there's.
-- Phoenix university.
It's out there.
Florida Virtual School.
These these things you know.
-- that this would go and watch children random.
When they're not engaged in school.
A Google when he forced -- YouTube -- of course.
They FaceBook one enforce.
Do all sorts of things that enable them access -- world of learning accepted doesn't count because it wasn't the curriculum this Tuesday morning from ten to eleven.
But in fact people who want to learn -- almost everybody in this room has learned something outside of school.
That's the modern world and ideally learning should imitate the modern world why don't we sit in a row looking straight forward for fifty minutes.
Because that was perfect trying to work and a textile mill.
Why would you do -- -- how many do you want to voluntarily go to classes that resemble your childhood.
As opposed to the way most of you -- learn either learn on your own through -- mentor me go to three days short course it's very intensive.
But how many we actually voluntarily say you know I'd like to take its last three days a week at the convenience of the professor.
And -- like doing sit around waiting for him to show up.
And wait for the fifty minute lecture which he actually -- textbook on.
Which you actually requirement of -- by mortars into the class to listen to -- actually chapter six.
And that's not how the modern world -- -- Have a show of hands.
I was gonna ask I was gonna ask if you would abolish the department case but you're actually -- -- -- -- transcendent.
Yeah I I.
I'd I'd like to -- the public education become research.
And information center.
I'd like to us yes we privatize the student loan program -- the president.
Bankruptcy and -- country by promising to every young person.
You will not have to pay your student loans and student however usually don't have to pay off the national -- as a taxpayer.
But I'm being good use -- you -- you pay an opposite taxpayer I'll be gone below reelected because you gratitude that you won't be paying about the state.
Which is a Ponzi scheme even and by governor Perry's.
I told you this -- be -- and yeah.
Imagine imagine you mention that before we currently we there's a lot that.
-- to talk about for college but you mentioned the conveniences.
As a central obstacle what's your strategy for overcoming.
Unions as obstacles.
And this kind of vision for education later.
The same as.
-- Paula and Aaron Johnson's strategy for breaking the -- -- him.
Every time in American history you had to go to centralization of power sooner or later the American people rise opens him -- And and ironically if the Occupy Wall Street people we wanted to help.
They would have an occupy unique you know teachers union headquarters movement.
Because in fact that is a major impediments a major cause of income inequality in America because.
When poor children trapped in neighborhoods with poor schools they have no future in -- world of information.
So I think somebody and this is as president I would say this very directly and -- -- quite -- -- -- -- the NEA convention.
The acting commissioner say there.
I think that and and Sharpton said this very well and he and I disagree about 99 items at a -- But I have been -- -- of him where he which were essentially all of a lot.
And which I had obviously knows standing as as what a Republican conservative I was they're sort of as the here's here's the rest and that we -- guys are.
Sharpton and very good -- -- of them don't give me some excuse.
We're keeping a mediocre teacher who destroys children.
Now that the Vienna pretty good battle cry nationwide.
And LA unified as one of the places that they ought to replace the entire contract.
And the entire structure that's pretty good argument.
Although you've done a brilliant revenues city -- a general rule I would say there's a pretty good right against large centralized structures.
In which the unions become so -- you can't possibly -- them.
In any kind of effective way.
-- -- -- one other question before turning -- him -- in -- and I think.
All I've -- -- question -- disagree with them it's the Bill Gates recently said.
The single greatest challenge facing this country SK twelve education.
Do you agree with them and if not where would you put it in terms of the challenges we face as a nation.
You know of all the challenge we face the nation.
Well I mean I wrote the section on education and our Rudman commission -- said.
The second greatest -- -- states after new weapon -- -- so I think it's pretty there.
I think the tragic collapse.
Basic education particularly for children in relatively poor neighborhoods.
Is one of the greatest.
Crises in americans' side.
I think it cripples us economically I think it threatens us socially.
I think it divides us politically and I think if we truly believe were endowed by our creator with the right to pursue happiness we have to have fundamentally new.
And very aggressive strategies to save the lives of people who are currently being cheated by the very governments that are supposed to take care.
Went took a thoughtful short.
Have we've been over and you've you've you've you've got to -- us a little bit with your talk about the student loans.
But today you also mentioned for profit -- others and there's that a big debate going on Washington about for profit colleges the argument being that.
47% of all student loan defaults I think -- for profit schools.
So should the government be subsidizing those kinds of for profit -- I'm into the government is subsidizing schools -- have a billion dollar net.
That's a separate question.
Most of it but it but it's -- -- after the vote.
First first thought I'd be much more skeptical about the government subsidized.
-- -- I think that there are that the government has a public purpose for doing things it's a good thing myself crop.
I want through graduate school -- national defense education act -- I also was fortunate to get a Georgia State scholarship which -- paid off teaching in Georgia so I'm -- I think there are times and places I would frankly give.
This is I would eliminate all interest.
For math and science and engineering students.
Because you want to incentivize people to go into those areas.
But I would do it as a matter of national security bill not as a matter I would think -- that -- education and what we did late in the Eisenhower administration.
In response to spot.
As we said look there are real national interest here.
The strength of the same reason I would give me area of visas every person who graduates of -- science and engineering.
From American schools they could stay here that are going back in the starting businesses against.
-- -- I'd rather have great jobs in America and page of the -- But but I was trying to say we we have a right to scrutinize and say.
A for profit school.
Should in fact deliver personally should deliver real graduates most of do make -- to distinguish between the places that are setup purely -- diploma mills.
And of the places that actually in many cases have a higher graduation rate.
Then the public institutions they can be -- So I would start and look carefully and not constitute not a -- prop up what about the not for profit schools and I dropped.
Well what about schools in which people round which 25% at the end of the freshman gradually.
And it strikes me this -- fair to ask things about everybody but not to assume an automatic bias for one or the other.
Well if if the Zuckerberg gates and jobs.
All dropped out of college.
Can't reasonably successful lives.
Have we went over emphasizing college yes.
The necessity for success in America.
But -- a million reformer.
Electricity over here just in the book of sweet land of liberty in which -- the elephant takes forty year -- through American history.
There's a scene where Ellis an event Lincoln -- -- -- -- read this is young.
Abraham Lincoln about possibly one half years of education.
And was probably the smartest person you right.
That doesn't mean therefore there's an equation.
That says if you're clever enough to drop out after one half years you become even went.
You know Jefferson -- for the law and -- -- -- that's probably good.
But I think you've got to look at the whole notion.
People people I would argue that people -- truly entrepreneur.
Should be on for -- like I think you ought to rethink for very poor children if there are ways to help them earn money you know much earlier age at one point.
I was advocating to no avail the New York City janitors they -- -- -- for school and they should hire kids from the point neighborhood.
Do all the janitorial.
Both because they could use the money and they then have a sense of ownership of the school.
So and I think that you want to look at models of how do you get people engaged in life as early as possible Benjamin Franklin moves to Philadelphia thirteen.
And goes to work.
As an apprentice was well he does okay.
I don't think you should automatically block people in the but I would say on behalf of higher education.
I'm gonna try to convince every state.
To -- off of the College of the Ozarks and have -- work study college because of those -- You go you you you work twenty hours a week during the year and you get you tuition books you work forty -- -- -- -- -- -- get really bored.
93% students graduate only no debt.
7% -- an average of 5000 dollars -- -- -- car.
You can't even apply unless she needs to me and they have the student aid and they rank fifth I think after Columbia in relative numbers.
Students -- accept every state and haven't for two reasons one -- was in the poorest in the state -- work.
You can get -- -- -- to benchmarks price.
Against all universities in the state you begin to wonder tell me again why you have this money bureaucrats this many administrators this much overhead.
And you'll find that higher education is -- bubble sustained only by Republican bills.
And don't get -- -- -- bases its -- and we go wrong so.
And it you.
We lots of -- next time that's the cost.
If you look right now you ended on point tonight I think he's witness and shouldn't right now.
Which was -- -- two messages in one case we knew what -- to go to college complete college particularly in math and science.
Certain level what you want more his college is becoming increasingly.
The state universities it -- they don't have the revenue streams private university of pricing themselves -- and market.
What we need to turn this around it's a message and the reality of divert public performance of exercise in order pass.
Why does universe -- -- billion dollar endowment charge tuition.
And why does Harvard was charged with crimes that what the reasons -- because it's because again.
Announcing it will but he was asking a moral question not a practical question.
The practice and you know here's a practical world -- -- properties like 1%.
They can get out again and that's it that's morally very good Harvard faculty being -- -- -- be worried about the degree to which they are ripping off the country.
I mean it was likely that the values of the Harvard and you -- faculties.
Would lead them to rise up tomorrow morning and demand free education for students as long as the endowment.
And I just I think -- -- right there why wouldn't the university systems have as many bureaucrats -- One state -- suggest that by 2014.
Virtually we will have approximately.
The same number of administrators and -- That we have teachers in higher education.
Only one to one may -- an -- model student teacher who won the won his bureaucrat to teachers' strikes -- of sir.
Go through and look at -- school's response to what we've done a student -- of course is.
We have now -- student loans as we've made it possible for students.
To live beyond their means.
For longer than they should.
Selling off their future.
And then suddenly when they get out of school realizing -- I borrow that much.
This is if you think about it this is not a very Smart model for a country.
Is as a model -- sell short the future.
Maximizes the present.
And and doesn't teach people true -- and.
The president did yesterday is very destructive it just it just expands the bubble -- educate -- education last year I think this is correct.
The integrity of it your paper as the -- so it must be -- must.
Public universities for the fifth straight year -- and expands faster than prime numbers.
Now why -- in every state have a commission on the cost of higher education.
And one -- -- -- Governor Perry and started damage -- road as he has instructed that they -- to find a way for students to get through faster and less expensive.
And every state ought to have that kind of -- -- what's the fastest you can go through college.
And -- the least expensive.
And -- in addition to a work college shouldn't have at least one track for people who are serious about getting through school willingly give up partying and -- Wednesday night.
Prepared to actually study all weekend and get through in two or three years.
Mean them we don't have those models right now because sociologically we've adopted a models as you know.
Drag it out as long as you can actually a great place to be for awhile you don't have it there's no urgency.
And I think this is as part of the general restructure American society we're at the beginning of a period of disruptive reform.
And one of the disruptive places will be education.
Well I think on that that you know ambitious half.
-- we will all repaired how we can think about.
The provocative ideas you throughout speaker Gingrich thank you very much for being.
Itself I think report thanks for the college.
The College Board thank you I guess it wouldn't think you who -- thank you.
All of our candidates -- and all of you for your kind attention.
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