Where Do Ohio Voters Stand on Issue 2?
Focus group on consequences of limiting collective bargaining
- Duration 7:19
- Date Nov 9, 2011
Focus group on consequences of limiting collective bargaining
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-- Ohio truly is ground zero on this election night and all of America are going to be watching the consequences.
Of the vote this evening.
The battle is over something called issued to.
And can you explain what is she she was to the American people sure -- -- states across the country are going bankrupt California Illinois.
The going bankrupt because of fixed costs that they have for the future.
Don't have to -- pay it have a way to pay it it's not about unions and teachers about controlling fixed costs for the future and you in favor of it I am in favor of -- disagree.
I certainly disagree I agree that there are certain financial constraints that we absolutely have to address.
But I believe that the goal of the public servants -- fire police military or teachers is to protect.
The society and educate the children I don't want to finance guy deciding.
And this man looks like a finance guy start.
What is what so contentious about this everyone's yelling and hollering screaming let's not just the financial issues at stake.
It also involves evaluation of job performance and job security and also these are not wealthy people you're talking about these are working every day people cedar river post a post and the teacher rob.
I'm also opposed to issue two and because.
Did the fact it's an issue is really a misnomer it's a whole hodgepodge hold -- -- issues you don't salt -- by bringing in a guillotine.
Okay and this is what this does it takes a situation now it basically.
It basically takes.
A way for the government to to get rid of all collective bargaining rights for public citizens.
-- also a teacher to play.
I'm -- -- I didn't looking at how mine I'm evaluated and principle comes in two times a year for twenty minutes.
Other than that and standardized testing.
-- -- Columbus going to determine whether I need to pay raise.
While on that issue because we've actually got a number of acts.
One of the most powerful ads against issue two is a teacher who looks to straight to camera.
And explains why she's opposed to it the higher the lines climb the more favorable the -- this is one of the reasons why polls show that issue too is likely to be defeated.
You -- Taylor street teacher's right to bargain collectively.
For smaller class sizes and I'm sending text and even negotiating on school safety issues and issues to get me even more standardized testing and less time I was learning.
Teachers know what our students need -- -- Don't let the politicians take away our rights being number -- -- children don't know my issue to.
Ooh that was one of the most impact -- acts against.
Thing gets issued to I was its -- apple for you.
It seemed honest without being threatening and we got information.
Thome -- I thought it was very grassroots.
Came right down the teacher in the classroom seeing how this was going to affect her daily performance with the kids.
Other reactions here this -- scare tactic concept with that.
I'm not convinced it increases or or money that's.
You know dedicated to the teachers -- it through this program are actually going to go to -- -- equipment don't you think teachers are underfunded.
It teacher decides that she cared about children and the people there at that pro SB -- Asked if I don't care about -- I care about my children I can't afford to pay more taxes if I want to say for their future my future in college education I can't give anymore.
And its interest and you say that because there's another action on that was even more powerful and this one was in favor.
-- issue -- it's the battle of teacher vs teacher.
Opponents addition to -- single harm education.
I tell my students who you can't believe everything you hear.
Jerusalem vision -- and improve education.
Finally be rewarded for the job they do.
And the results that they achieved in the classroom rules are not leading races just for showing up.
Not all teachers want this change what isn't it about time the educators -- teach your children get -- to deliver.
Let's find out how many thought that was an -- raise your hands.
Even a lot of you -- body gets a huge lapses on apple because is it the truth.
And -- and the thing is -- everybody gets evaluated.
You we -- we are mean I get rid reverend recreation every year -- gonna screw up.
I'm gone I was at some thoughtful.
-- has been having education problems for many years it's nothing new did Jon K six administration.
I had two children that went through public schools and teachers for most part we're good that you did have teachers that you want -- -- -- younger that couldn't get paid more and other ones are there for a long time.
I'm just -- children -- -- losses teachers.
He also to show us your teacher's seniority issues even though he considered very energetic he had a great teacher who really loved her job -- -- that.
I I blame the -- the listener and -- system.
Daughter and -- -- teacher and her husband is a police officer so I may be ruining Christmas for this next statement.
But the fact is I love what he said there about the fact that.
Really accountability is important and I know leather -- teachers but there's a lot of misuse in -- -- school.
As a teacher.
As a teacher IA and I think that is poignant however.
-- in the classroom -- with your kids I know what they need.
Don't know what you need people lol -- actually.
You're just went I know a -- how many more than any stranger regardless.
My daughters -- yeah I don't care teachers help parents teach children.
You do not know what my -- more than I know much about -- it's.
Well I couldn't disagree more.
I have to say that I'm with your child were waking hours in the day than you are not sitting in your child -- but I know how he or she learns and I'd like to work as a team.
I I disagree -- there I know my child better than someone who spends time with her.
And -- other students you don't have eight hours candidates get to know my child individually.
You don't have the time you're allowed to you can't say you know a child more than their parent I mean that to me is insulting.
I know all of the resources available that I can request that I feel would help your child's education.
Good teacher also.
Well this one of the big issues with merit -- Is that every child comes in your classroom with different -- abilities based on you know -- their parents -- What they're born -- and I know that if you start doing acting you know.
Doling out money out based on merit pay I know teachers that would personally going to files and find out.
What students' test stores scores would have been and teachers would be fighting about getting certain students in their classrooms.
Because your side is likely to win this evening when you get the last word I do feel though that we need to get rid of tenure I know lots of -- teachers that need to be remiss.
That's the last workspace.
It's not just issued to -- also issue three Obama's health care.
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