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Debt Panel Far From a Deal?

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    Despite new Republican flexibility on revenue increases, debt panel remains far from compromise

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Just -- -- it's gonna join us now former three star admiral and former Pennsylvania congressman always good to have him to talk politics this morning.

-- eventually we will get to the debt panel but I have a little bit.

Of news that's happening right now I don't know did you watch any of the GOP debate last night.

I did not you did not a right now the debate you know all right -- -- -- about -- yeah I'll bet -- -- one of those headlines had to do with Texas governor Rick Perry.

Yes and a little gas that he had last night not be able to remember some of the names of the federal programs departments that he'd like to cut in the name of Bob.

Of funding our governor Rick Perry will be on Fox News Channel in just a few hours at 2:15 PM eastern with meg and Kelly on America live I just got that on my Blackberry a lot of people wanting to hear from him.

As the day of news rolls on to see he was on FOX & Friends this morning that things will change as the day goes.

You know -- you've been in office.

When these types of things happen they -- the faster a little bit don't think.

Without a question yeah it I thought of myself out there and how many times you wanted to mention that third.

-- and you just can't reach for it.

On the other hand.

The Iron Man -- politics is the presidential race we put those candidates through a pretty tough times because once one of them gets into the White House we want to make sure they have our back.

So you've got to be able to -- step up to that -- to the to the task.

And but I on the human scale I felt for the guy.

Yep yep it is the longest job interview process in the land -- I've heard okay let's talk about the debt panel.

I have read this morning that you think on the issue of cutting and and shoring up.

Our economy and getting rid of some of the debt off our our books the red -- That this -- -- so far apart it's pathetic.

Yeah it really appears to be that way and I think.

That they are going to be too scared at the end the album public won't lash out if they don't come through some sort of a compromise now I don't think they're gonna get.

The one point two trillion.

I think that in the elements of what you've seen there they'll probably get to about 600 billion maybe 800 actually -- it.

They have and let the traders come in on the rest of it.

Take defense for example.

If that 600 billion in defense is triggered.

Along with a 400 billion they already are going to take out over the next ten years that comes to about 15%.

Of the total defense reduction in the next decade and that's a heck of a lot less than we did after Vietnam career and even the cold.

Given this -- was different then.

How.

Much we have going on right now I mean I know that we're winding down -- if there is one thing -- that we have learned the last six months you don't know where there.

-- -- True but here's the issue I think Harris.

The entire military force structure since 1993.

Has been based on fighting two wars simultaneously.

Korea.

And I -- I -- is over this year.

And South Korea.

Are chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said they could defend it without the army commitment of several divisions.

Because army was involved in Iraq there's an -- not needed for that one of the two wars is gone what the department hasn't done.

Is say here's the strategy.

For what we are to do because I didn't hear your -- -- previous guest except at the very end.

But we're still building a military based upon how many ships how many planes how many divisions rather than.

Do you know what bin Laden is can you reach out and touch and and get him immediately.

And that's why I think we may end up.

With this tongue suppressor on the fence actually changing to a knowledge base military rather than a platform based military interest what we need for the future.

All right I -- introduce you to someone his name is David nutrition news here this morning he's a historian and an author.

And we've been talking politics with him because he's got that history.

Background.

This is -- super committee we can put some video up of of the members of the -- the super committee.

Talk to me a little bit about how this compares with how decisions have been made in the past I mean it is -- effective way to get it done -- Well think of when you were in school.

And your homework assignment came do.

And these deadlines tend to focus people on.

When it will get done and it will not get done until the last minute whether it's in a State -- like -- Albany of them very familiar with.

We're always goes down to the wire or will we saw it going down.

To the wired this year.

So in August note that our look don't look for something to be done a month ahead of and it's -- if it's going to be done it's going to be done at the very last minute.

I think it's going to be done just around the edges there that we are -- that see any great grand bargain the two parties are too far apart philosophically.

Interest thing so I can tell if that's the case and we're looking for one point two trillion -- -- think we're gonna come out and about half of that.

Well our business just histrionics I mean shouldn't we just wait and let him tell us what they're gonna come up -- I -- -- or do you think.

The public's pressure on this committee actually benefit them somewhat.

Well I think you hit a very important points.

The lack of transparency.

-- into twelve officials.

Who are now going to make a decision.

So far reaching for our future.

Is.

I -- almost undemocratic.

Rarely have we ever had what we -- need to come together go off to a super committee.

And then come back with Donna for the -- closing.

In the military and so I think this lack of transparency.

Is actually hurting the process if it was open and there was real debates out there I think you'd see the public really pushing them to come together and a -- so.

And we might since I mean why wouldn't we all go down a Wall Street not despite some of them.

You know it's interstate I don't care in the Tea Party -- Occupy Wall Street they are representative of what you're getting that.

The failure for leaders to actually be more concerned about Americans spend their partisan -- view.

And in my mind the -- Sounds like you're being part simulate that you're -- some -- -- it's.

-- there but -- I heard you correctly right now we have people who are unwilling to be Americans first before the partisan.

Down in the senate and the congress are firmly believe it everywhere I went -- still go in Pennsylvania but I hear -- people say look.

I don't really care if you go left or right on the whole I just want a government that's gonna work and to have a dysfunctional government.

Set up almost a dysfunctional.

-- representative committee.

That isn't transparent is the worst of the worst.

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