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Capitol Hill Corruption

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    Notorious lobbyist Jack Abramoff joins Alan to expose the corruption in Washington

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We had on this show about a year ago a little over a year ago -- free.

And Ralph -- obviously some with whom you've associated.

-- and he.

Talked about when you approached him here's what he said about the way your relationship again.

I set I got one rule I will not be paid -- any gambling revenues Jack said.

Our clients have a lot of other business interest they do a lot of other things.

You know we you know we -- probably arrange for you to be paid with revenues that are gambling related does that accurately represent what happened.

No not at all.

In what -- what little it's ridiculous I mean most ninety -- the -- -- of the differences 99% of the revenue came from gaming but a lot of us president nothing but gaming.

So another -- Ralph -- was saying they'll work with you but I don't wanna -- -- gambling money on to clean for that but he says that that conversation never happened.

-- never happened Ralph didn't want to help that he is getting gambling money united.

Frankly you know that that -- his choice and I think it was a big mistake.

-- -- -- Well I mean he's not a public official.

And you know so he's a businessman.

I don't think that that was that that want to look at and say it wasn't disingenuous.

But that's not the same level corruption in my view is a public official but this certainly -- it was a stupid move on his part and probably -- dishonest.

When you mean when you wrote you lobbying partner Michael Scanlon complaining about Regis said that he's a bad version of us.

Yeah I I basically thought he was -- tap -- and just constantly asking for money and I -- -- fortunate we were better -- answers.

-- -- -- -- You you've talked about hypocrisy in the book of certain people in congress.

Who would look at you and would -- -- you know they themselves had benefited from your largest.

Yes right now system.

Specifically ethnic I was talking about the senate hearing this I -- -- -- some of the biggest offenders.

-- that are Campbell was the chairman of the committee does talk about this book and breakfast with me at the old block clean restaurant which closed now.

And we had a very lovely breakfast where I handed him 55000 dollars checks from.

My tribal clients and basically was told that don't -- -- -- have any trouble and his committee.

And -- that he was the one leading the charge accusing me of production -- so what does that say corruption you mean like our breakfast senator.

Now when those moments only -- -- movies -- just like the Byron -- humans to get Byron -- also you know itself sort of patrol revenues trading about -- -- -- you know carried on as a corrupt individual meanwhile I think he would accept it.

Gosh you forgot the numbers probably like 75000 dollars in checks from my clients in my -- people work for me which he gave back what was -- in particular about this ms.

That he recently come out as a number of them have to attack the book and he said none of that happened but meanwhile -- -- the money back what did -- -- back.

What's being done that to address this.

-- when you are seeing now or certainly nothing serious.

And how is it.

Affecting us I mean to win a get a legislation we should get stuff did you plan of the book and it's pretty detailed how they hide stuff -- legislation.

Legislation it's never read.

But you'd like you're able to get stuff in there that nobody even knows about them.

And maybe the -- legislative aide to chief of staff knows about it the actual people signing it don't know about it and we get -- script.

Absolutely they get a bit and they make a big deal about how congressmen don't read the bills which is itself ridiculous that they don't.

What about the fact that many congressional offices at the lobbyists to draft the bills for.

There's literally so lazy that the lobbyists get the right the language that way they want them we'd love that by the way but not -- -- -- love that.

It's an amazing read your book but you know make money off this -- will you all a lot of money and your finances are being overseen correct.

There are bio I know 44 million dollars and institutions.

I don't know how well the book book do but it's unlikely to do that.

-- -- -- emotionally deal with living high -- the -- -- made millions -- dollars and now.

Pretty much everything you make has to be overseen by -- court -- -- -- cope with.

Well you know as I fail to step by step from where I was to where violated both the sides in present.

You know each of these levels I fell by a comedy myself to my new reality.

And -- need to know life isn't necessarily bowl of cherries for me it's a lot better than what about moderately moderately and -- -- -- make you better person I hope so I hope so.

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