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-- 42 president of United States.
Bill Clinton is written back to work I appreciate you wrote this book -- -- encourage you to write -- I just got so concerned after the 2010 elections and it seemed to be so.
Fact for -- that I thought that.
He you know somebody ought to put something in a short form of books about a 195 -- -- long.
And half of it is an economic and political history of America the last thirty years the other half is.
Well we ought to be doing going forward and -- I thought.
You know I was hoping it would be helpful to people to see what the competitions -- -- -- -- friends are -- to see what works because I worried that.
All this anti government rhetoric which is great politics and election.
Produces bad policies there's not a single successful country on earth.
That doesn't have both an effective government had a very strong probably coming in that are working together that's what we've got to do an American effort that's how we got to strongest we are what we have -- -- again.
As you point out it began in 1980 with the Ronald Reagan ran against the government and here we have.
A particular strain now in the Republican Party the Tea Party are -- the real -- right wing part of the party.
They they keep telling us how bad government is how to liberals Democrats progressives convince the rest of the country -- government isn't the -- man.
Wolf first of all I think.
We've got to try to get people will look at some of the facts.
If you look at.
Put in the book.
You can -- that.
We don't tax.
More than other countries of the 33.
Wealthy countries and organization for economic cooperation development worth 31 -- -- in -- and attacks.
And a lot of those other countries have lower unemployment rates faster growth rates.
Rising wages declining income inequality.
Next if you look at the kinds of things that are making them grow.
They all have some bearing some relationship to government policy but South Korea's broadband downloads speeds -- four times on the course.
Because the government policy.
If we had.
A genuine national electrical grid.
North Dakota alone could provide 25% of America's.
And it would be free from now once we've made the investment to put the wind capacity up.
Those -- just little examples but I think you have to put that out the other thing I try to do.
In the book was to get some real examples of government programs that work well like the VA health system which we overall when I was president generally.
Regarded as one of the health systems of America.
And I gave lot of other examples of things that the people don't think government think of government that works quite well but those it yeah.
-- -- the governor of the -- some bad bad policies can cause trouble we the government.
Played a role in allowing too much leverage in the financial system which -- this.
Collapse here in another country.
But -- play that you're anti government is like saying you don't like yourself.
This comes up all the time and by the way president Clinton's new book is called back to work.
I am always amazed that Republicans -- a very good job.
Convincing a broad swath of the American public that their policies are better for them -- democratic policies would in fact the opposite may be true.
What is how are they able to do that what so many people believed.
That middle income middle class Americans -- lower income people yet.
They're somehow convinced that those policies on the other side are better for -- Well I think.
For one thing they've been playing a long time.
And -- undeterred by evidence.
And for another.
The -- look at how many middle class people.
After inflation and have a lower income -- -- and they did ten years ago even before the financial -- In September 2008.
Median family income after inflation -- thousand dollars lower than what developed -- So if you're rhetoric is.
I'll tell your taxes.
And that's what the only way you future income -- and your rhetoric is the government spending too much money when you think you are because you have the product you maxed out your credit cards.
Trying to keep up with the -- -- -- you'd like in the -- -- anymore.
And you've got thirty years of the government would -- that incorporates stuff back and you.
And interrupt that may have.
Most superficial appeal the problem as it hadn't produced a very good economy.
It's produced it and it is primarily responsible.
For the enormous -- that we ran out before the financial collapse.
So it's good -- -- it this is a general problem.
These kinds of conflicts.
Make good politics.
And they also make it easier to.
Report the news you know you just play that's what conservative is and -- time we disagree with them we're liberal and we just.
It obscures what the real divided.
We live in a country where good policy.
Information dissemination in terms of walking down a certain market share for your program -- my good policy.
Good politics and they're -- here at odds and we gotta close the gap that's what I try to do that book.
You really -- very good at staying on message in this book you really encapsulate some of the issues very well Democrats seem to be we need to do a better job staying on message in getting out the message of that.
Those of almost.
Are understood by the rest of the public so they -- and -- -- and what policies are better for them how.
That's definitely and it that would also help if you look at this bipartisan.
Evaded its struggling -- these budget issues now.
It would it would help the Republicans a moderate Republicans -- don't have anyplace to go because there's no counterweight on the other side of people.
Talking about how the world really works and so.
It's you know it would not only I think.
-- -- the Democrats in the progressive forces it would actually help the Republicans that want to work with us and want to solve the problems of the country.
-- -- that that a guy like Herman Cain who has no experience.
Doesn't know a lot get to the top of the Republican pack in an election cycle.
And yet people who are governors like Buddy Roemer Jon Huntsman.
Who -- truly qualify don't seem to be resonating with the American -- Well first of all you gotta give -- is there he's got a lot of self confidence these things positive these things they.
And the Republicans are or.
No less vulnerable than the Democrats -- Two.
-- some relief from.
The bella -- the last several years they -- to -- -- to vote for somebody who's kind of pretend -- personality and as you know I think a lot of it is really due to.
-- -- Personality and I think he's a consistent conservative.
There's an upbeat guy I think that is not much more complicated and -- And -- there's little there's recent troubles.
He was one of the candidates -- That basically was benefited from not having a record that could be attacked.
And didn't seem to be too prone to verbal gaffes.
How vulnerable -- President Obama do you think and the upcoming election.
With precision play I think you'll be reelected because I think that.
He's out there -- and against himself.
And run and ended ahead when the peoples.
Like all the young people a charity and through last.
Are much more likely to be unemployed and people a world.
Even those with college degrees or less likely to be employed -- older people with college degrees.
When you're running against yourself in a challenging.
You can't win.
But when he has an opponent.
And people evaluate the direction he's taken the country is compared to the direction.
That his opponent will advocates.
I think he'll be found I expected to win the election.
How do you see yourself -- and the elections you -- role for yourself.
You know I've got a government has -- foundation everything and I hope this book will help but I.
I certainly -- -- supportive and if you want me to make some appearances.
Will be willing to do that.
I believe he's done a better job -- They've gotten credit for partly because.
These financial crises or so maddening they -- to take.
Five to ten years to get over and when there's a real estate component to -- -- there is here.
It's usually closer to ten years -- -- the Japanese struggle for a full decade with their problem.
In the 1990s and an eight years I have seven Japanese prime ministers to work with.
And I I think that's really just goes against the American psyche that we could ever have a problem that would take a long time to get over.
But what I've been trying to play to people -- Look instead -- -- -- that.
Two years after.
Three years that the president took office were not out of this you should say what we want to do.
Is to -- historical laws we want this to be it's close to a 45 year problem as we can.
And an order do that here the things we have to do.
I think you know what the American people really understand.
The dimensions of this even though a lot of -- enormous personal plane.
That if you know what you're up against.
It's it's less frightening.
And then -- just didn't sort of -- over the we don't get out of it but you can go back hundreds of years.
And see that.
That would these these kinds of financial collapses.
You can't get out of them less than five years and if you're stuck in a real estate problem it's more likely to take ten.
So what we need to do is to beat those odds and that's what I -- -- just.
Yeah and a way to do it and there are a lot of specifics in the book back to work President Clinton only select talking thank you so much for your time today really dragged -- -- your concern thanks Tim Russert -- --
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