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Now out of the child sex scandal at Penn State.
Today campus and city police disputing claims by a key witness in this case.
Who now says he told the investigators he saw former assistant coach raped a ten year old boy.
They say he didn't.
As you know former defensive coordinator Jerry sandusky is facing forty counts of sexually abusing children.
He claims he's innocent.
But the football team's wide receivers coach Mike were -- Told a grand jury that back in 2002.
He -- coach sandusky raping a boy in a shower room.
He told a grand jury even asked his father for advice and then told the legendary head football coach Joseph Paterno about it but he never testified that he told police.
Because of that coach -- query has become a target of outrage.
But in an email that surface just yesterday coach we'll query now claims he did indeed tell police the only problem is.
Cops say they have no records that indicate a -- spoke to it any of their officers.
Or ever filed any sort of report.
What is now is Geoff Sanderson -- attorney was representing at least two of the Penn State's alleged victims.
-- has many more have contacted him Jeff Anderson widely recognized as the most successful litigator of sex crimes abuse.
In the Catholic Church counts it's nice to see you thank you.
Let's hear your position your client's position on this witness.
Well the survivors.
With whom we have.
Been in regular contact has there.
Suffering through the revelations.
I'm a query are.
That this is -- another dimension of denial he obviously.
I saw something he should have done something about.
He chose not to.
And it didn't and when scrutinized.
Now is denying -- that you really.
Did something other than -- lady -- -- and which was nothing and it seems to be.
The dynamic a denial that is presence at the institution.
In the case similar query he denies that's.
He didn't -- and in the case.
Sandusky he denies that he abused ends in a case of top officials -- Are still operating in a mode where they're really not being -- being transparent.
And open enough to take -- actions so we have.
Denial -- play so.
It's in this climate.
From send us gave -- but query to the top.
So we really see sexual abuse flourish counselor attempt to me this year you've you've mentioned that.
A number of other people have come forward seeking your services.
Can you give us an idea of how many more victims are out there how many more people say they're victims of this coach.
Well the numbers of survivors -- -- made contact with us.
And the folks were you with us I don't have a precise number three or four half -- -- -- Ten.
You put your hands up did you say ten but -- say ten is so they -- victim so we don't know about what yet.
And then there Amare they have been there more than anything it counts of -- and need I need precision precise is here.
-- more than ten victims about whom we so -- have no direct knowledge.
We have had contact from approximately ten folks.
Who have either broken the silence for the first time.
Or have made contact with OK Vietnam very recently we tell me what it is that your client who who'll remain nameless obviously.
What it is that your client seeks now in the way of justice.
Well -- this is that the one that really caused me to really come out.
-- with this was his exhortation to me.
Jeff he said I know the work you've done.
I can't to go public and I want to remain private things that you can.
That he said that.
Wants you to give voice in volume to the fury yet feel.
And the fear that I have to the other the -- -- it I want you to give voice -- volume really counselor those were his words well.
But those the words I heard it from his lips to my -- And I said I will honor your privacy and pledged to protect you as -- well all survivors at all times.
But -- also carrier message from my heart through my lips.
And from your ears.
I'll just say let's I wanna bring in our little -- here in the studio we can't Arthur right dollar criminal defense attorney former prosecutor and on our staff and -- -- and along with him.
Did lawyers can Jeff Anderson you stay with it sounds like -- -- more out there -- if -- if the words from the -- from the lawyer ring true.
There -- a lot more victims.
And -- alleged that I don't think that's going to be surprising to anyone in these kinds of -- until something goes as public as this have.
It's hard to find the victims -- out.
You know having a public relations campaign looking for them it's actually.
Again I hate you were pleasantly surprising that they had so many identified when they went into the grand jury so what's going to be crucial shepherd it just weeding out.
He's you know they'll be a jerk some moron who's gonna say something happened of course that it really didn't bonus money.
But then there's the matter of coach who query.
-- he's the one who witnessed the alleged abuse in the shower room didn't tell the grand jury that he contacted police now says he contacted police.
Police say he didn't contact them -- that they have no record of this is he and legal.
Issues here well certainly to the extent that he's changing his story to the extent that he -- to testify before grand jury or gave a statement under penalty purging.
Perjury yet he could have a problem but you see what's happening here now.
We have lawyers who want to protect the privacy of their clients which means then they're not gonna make him available to law enforcement what are they doing a subpoena comes down.
You've got witnesses starting to change stories all of this stuff does not -- well.
For the prosecution's case and this is where you start to build.
From a defense standpoint right in the walls start to crumble -- Jeff Jeff Anderson to what degree will the walls in your estimation start to crumble around Penn State.
What what do victims want from the university.
Well what the what they're the -- is -- -- -- the -- the survivors want first to be believed to have -- it.
To have other kids protected.
And they want from this university and this institution others like -- for them to step up.
To make sure that they are trained.
And pro active in -- what about the money children first.
Litigation sometimes can bring transparency and truth.
And if it's -- that in many cases go to litigation eventually in the meantime.
About one -- bill it will you be seeking monetary compensation from Penn state university.
Both both that the possibility but just a world had been ever happened just deposited a calculated decision to.
To seek money from Penn State.
Are we made a decision to protect these survivors.
To work with them to protect them of course of course but I'm curious about what I'm curious about what happened I think there is a bigger there's a big issue here.
Penn State is in is in deep trouble and whether these victims what will exercise their right to go after money from Penn State and -- and I'd like to know.
I think they I think -- well I think they've showed -- all right that's one way to get to the truth and to get to the transparency.
Expose a systemic failures so they don't get repeated in the future where there are concerns in the Penn State family the -- states -- -- well.
Certainly right now Penn State is going to try to hide behind the night and that's really what they're going to do you have sovereign immunity you've got insurance companies who -- going to step in and say.
The best way for us not -- have to shell out big bucks.
Is to have sovereign immunity kicking but something else is going on here if we remember back to the Michael Jackson trial.
That case really began to unravel when you saw the possibility that these people these victims were being driven by money.
And now we're seeing money -- to rear its that we have a dramatic time we'll have more lawyers and just to --
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