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I would be telling you all morning that the super committee appears to be on the verge of becoming a super failures so.
Is there any chance of success joining us right now from the Russell rotunda.
This morning committee member Arizona reached Republican senator Jon Kyl.
Senator Kyl is there anything encouraging that develop this morning -- imagine me did you did talk to Senator Kerry today could we be optimistic.
I wouldn't be optimistic I kinda wanna create a false hope -- my point is that -- were still talking and I think that's what people expect us to do.
And we'll do that until late this afternoon there'll be an announcement by the two cultures.
Toward the end of the day yesterday.
What the result was either way.
Said I don't know if you're the New York Times today how -- -- you do every day.
But they say the Democrats say that senator Kyl is the main obstacle to getting agreement.
As if he's the angry father who comes home and realizes his kids are having a party your reaction.
I don't -- -- that you get that.
We've talked throughout this process and a lot of different ideas and come up I -- hope that.
That there some sense that all the members of the committee have worked very very hard.
And I think that's a characterization that would be unfair for any of the members of the committee well.
Here is what Senator Kerry said to you on Meet the Press you had just spoken.
And this is was his first statement was out of the box.
John just said is patently not true.
We just cut 917.
Billion dollars without one dime of new revenue.
He knows -- we just did it.
We cut 550 billion dollars in the health care act from Medicare.
In the Democrats didn't make any offers for example they just -- notice senator to me.
And a Friday offer he just said basically called you a liar senator Kyl and you're sitting right next door.
-- what I had said and what he was responding to is probably difficult for the Democrats to reactor namely.
We said if we can't get anything done in terms of tax reform were entitlement reform let's at least salvage this process.
Can't agree on the things that we have essentially agreed upon there are other areas where you can achieve savings in the budget you can for example freeze.
Federal workforce -- including members of congress Wii console surplus federal land.
There's about 640 billion dollars there.
That we offered up to the Democrats and they said -- without raising taxes now that's a true statement.
What he would that it was referring them to was well back in August.
When we did the first part of this deal we cut discretionary spending by 600 at 917.
That's a true statement but Democrats like you going back and counting bat in the committee's work.
That was done by the congress last August the committee was charged with planning another one point two or one point five trillion dollars.
And that they're not willing to do unless Republicans are willing to raise taxes.
You'll also know he started to refer to the Social -- implement them and -- it.
I said we cut Social Security by 500 billion dollars that's right they -- they did cut the Social Security -- -- Medicare buy by.
500 billion dollar something Republicans had complained about half the time.
And it wasn't without raising taxes there -- significant new taxes raised in the in the so called Obama care legislation.
He wants the bush tax rates to evaporate this is the same argument we've been -- for two and -- half years.
While the president says this is not the time to raise taxes.
Senator Kerry seemed focused on getting Republicans.
To go back to -- rates prior to the Bush Administration.
-- Well this has been one of their mantras you have to raise taxes and the problem with doing that as the president himself said if you don't raise taxes in a recession.
Why because you're trying to get the entrepreneurs especially the small business folks who create most of the jobs.
To be able to hire somebody new or market a new product or whatever it takes for them to grow their business of the economy can recover.
You don't do that by taking more money from them.
And so I think everybody acknowledges that so one reason we've been so much against raising taxes in this process.
Is because we do not want the economy to suffer in fact.
The pro growth tax reform that Republicans put on the table would have been a different way to approach the problem and would.
Heavily in the ground work for the economy recovering pretty jobs do you believe the growth.
We're Norquist pledge which almost everybody -- not to raise taxes destroyed this process before it started like Democrats contend.
No that's that's silly.
Grover didn't like what we did he he objected to -- he he wrote about it so there's this crazy you we can't do this in it that's really the big news out of this entire process.
Republicans put the only new idea on the table here and it was a breakthrough is Victor from my democratic colleague.
Said earlier we put the breakthrough proposal on the table.
We're tax reform and we got nothing but rejection from -- -- -- you're retiring.
And we thought we're gonna have a legitimate negotiation for the last ten weeks should never seemed to -- you haven't even met face to face it Democrats I believe since that.
First week in November he would talk about each -- -- to each other is is the biggest disappointment of your career.
-- it's it's certainly is one of the biggest however I would let me correct you we have talked face to face right up until a couple of days ago.
And we'll talk face to face again today not as a group of twelve.
But as groups within that part of the problem is the Democrats have never been unified around a a particular -- -- Represented -- so that we -- week ago Sunday and so we've -- to talk to different groups of Democrats but not all in the same room at the same time well you.
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