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-- hands -- slap in the face to drivers that might drive down the economy in the National Transportation Safety Board.
Now calling -- -- nationwide ban on all cell phone use in cars that includes hands free someone here says that's gonna put the brakes on -- sputtering economic recovery.
I don't -- -- the Sony welcome that passionate.
Our -- -- -- crew this week we have Wayne Rogers Jonathan Hoenig Tracy Byrnes and John Layfield.
Also joining us from the Economic Policy Institute our good friend Christian Dorsey with us as well -- a lot the all of you would.
And we don't want to start with you hear you say that this if we didn't do a national ban on hands free calls.
That would hurt the economy -- so -- Oh my goodness I you know I have to be in Los Angeles right now people that -- spent an average of over an hour hour and a half to I was on the freeway.
Coming and going to work -- imagine the amount of work you can get done the amount of things that you can get done while talking on the telephone now.
-- to have -- I understand about people who who are you saying tech -- that's crazy because you're taking your eyes off the road and they'll tell you that that's Mets and that's.
However but talking on the phone lets you got a radio -- -- -- what are you gonna do band radios does that make any sense of course that people can listen they can talk big -- almost got.
People talk to other people in the car they do that all the time that would be crazy it would cut off a lot up productivity.
Jonathan everything that is sure a lot of people do what they do a lot of things in -- but business is one of the things that they do you haven't said that.
More than 3000 people have died a data texting.
Do get to being distracted by their cellphones and that's what the NTSB says that's why they want to they want to see this nationwide.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Yet com I'm on TV and now he just yet I -- -- Yeah right.
Cellphone -- right shall not no listen you're right you're right -- and obviously a lot of people are distracted.
3000 deaths -- it's terribly but you know a thousand people die every year from boating accidents at a Wayne's point -- -- -- -- band that next.
Driving and talking to the -- I was tremendously productive it's a third most important reason but people actually use a cell phone and car is doing business cut that off in your literally cutting productivity up but it's me.
You know -- -- economists Christian -- the economist doesn't hurt the economy.
You know it's actually not gonna hurt the economy at all I'll tell you why if you pass a law and no one enforces it -- no one follows it doesn't make any difference at all.
The NTSB is not interested in seeing any kind of a nationwide ban on cell phones they're trying to raise a point.
They're trying to raise public consciousness to the fact there were all too distracted.
Former behind the wheel and then you pay heed to that.
Christian I had I had the NTSB chairman on my show on personal box business yeah she wants this nationwide she -- -- the White House are -- the it's -- -- she knows it's it's never gonna happen you're never gonna yeah.
And do it and I feel good about asked about the timing but I also asked her some admitted here wasn't -- -- -- might my hands free device and having someone next to me she says that cell phones are vacuums.
You know what her ping -- largely actually doesn't matter when you're talking about whether or not this is gonna do harm because you're never gonna get.
The fifty states to enact the -- old man on cellphones in the car it's never gonna happen and let's just suppose to what did I got to know -- would ever following.
So that I bet what you.
I'm not do with the race -- talk about local municipalities and local -- -- of their ticket in the left to right 'cause I'm using it could really that's what we're -- gonna do.
But did you talk about distractions.
You don't know much of that program with three infants tighter landing and it hit a bottle and drag him up yeah me into that we get rid of the cell -- quite.
On the it looks really you know what every day -- -- hmmm I get on the phone with a source and that is actually how I do my job I I personally needed.
To be a better reporter I didn't I didn't -- business and be like without and John you know a lot of people -- made this complaint about flying -- you travel a lot that a win win executives can't get onto the Internet for Wi-Fi during -- the very frustrating because that's -- time lost in their business.
Yes it is and -- not willing -- talk about here is the different race between say texting and handles phone enhanced free you know we do have a fifty state ban on drinking and driving you can't smoke -- -- and -- driver car -- nor should you be able to so the question is how far do you go we have a long haul -- that in a truck for six straight hours should he be able to call ahead to tell that he -- -- jobs fitting that.
Talking all -- followers hands free or not.
I certainly don't so the question is word do you draw a line because a lot is being drawn and other places well and we can't deputy state -- we have one right now drinking and driving.
Jonathan is -- sure I want Tracy driving around what that -- MacArthur what I heard today -- Well I think they're big -- despite the bit despite the obvious risk.
-- it's a risk that a lot of people including Tracy literally hundreds of millions of people.
Take it may take it knowledgeably and -- -- -- hopefully with some precautions the government's role this job is to prosecute those who commit a crime and -- -- -- point oh what's that big really pass a law that that no enforces it criminalize his behavior that millions of people engaging every day with another reason.
That's some a -- is gonna pull me over because I'm talking I'm are on the phone but.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- While -- jaywalking laws exist virtually everywhere and how many people get ticketed for jaywalking I mean you know we can make.
A mountain out of a mole hill here it's never going to happen so to talk about it all of the calamities that then why all of us supposed to ask you know it's not what why how what what what what I have a regulator -- the government and taxpayer dollars.
-- I think -- -- -- so well first of all the beer I guess B is not a regulator they can only make suggestions these laws can only be enforced at the state level and if anything.
I -- I know have been able wouldn't have been away where way to do we wait you can't just hop with this topic I wanna go back we will have been full -- -- Major major major company they've got a whole that it got a hold voice command system and vehicles that they're that they actually debuted this week so what are they gonna do not mix all of that.
-- Oh of course not you know it's ridiculous but -- but I did two points he had.
First of all we've had voice communication and among truck is.
Favre like forty years -- get outbreak.
Illini got and also a cut.
Would they are doing business on the highway all the time people are doing that that's that's -- that's -- that when you have verbal communication.
You don't take your hands off them out of your eyes off the road and your hands off the -- to -- -- -- -- -- like this all the time but you don't know that that's crazy and as far as passing a law.
Just depends why should any -- anyone.
Talk about passing a law and not bringing -- that's idiotic.
You wanna say all the constitution is the -- the limp but let's not pay any attention to it I don't know what the economy amounts should do well.
-- -- -- the question here I got back to -- being economists and the question is does it hurt productivity.
I've heard a lot of examples of this discussion that it does her productivity if you do what he.
Here's the interesting thing let's just presume that the NTSB got its way they're not outlawing talking or doing business in the car there outlawing it.
From third party devices they are saying.
Bit of its all factory installed.
You can feel free to go ahead and use hands free devices to talk and do business so ultimately.
This would spur all range of automotive companies and other technology companies to make sure that we were connected in as many ways as we desired so really wouldn't hurt at all.
And -- I go back to the example of a company like Ford and many of the automakers that are basically turning our vehicles and -- homes.
And this could be a problem that this does become line I'm signing -- would like to see this become law.
Yeah they want and -- he got a mega wealthy got like Wayne who's getting drug driven around a lot.
A and Canada he's let me think you have a lot of business neckline -- that's making sure that he's gonna get there on top of you've got to have the ability of that driver to make that call the question is where do we draw the line I've seen people driving around scooters here in New York City.
Texting I think we're all realize that is unsafe that's -- -- -- problems and bigger economic problems by the regs that it calls into the health care system so there's a fine line here between what is actually working.
And what is simply just reckless.
I tell you our viewers have been up in arms as many great topic everybody thank you very much good this.
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