Cut the Pork to Cut the Debt?
New calls for earmark ban after passage of 1,200-page spending bill
- Duration 8:38
- Date Dec 17, 2011
New calls for earmark ban after passage of 1,200-page spending bill
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-- -- for business congress not shutting down.
But it's apparently acted the same old tricks the house passing a 12100 page spending bill.
Without reading it prompting questions -- that how much work -- While earmarks are ban something called special projects are not.
What -- want pork is pork.
Something our Neil Cavuto hammered home at the GOP debate.
It was a total ban on all pork spending the only way to save taxpayers' money hi everyone I'm Brenda Buttner -- this -- is bold and or let it dry you out there this week Mary B Smith Tobin Smith Jonas -- spare us along with Matt McCall and -- -- and pitch.
Welcome everybody tell me that pork fat -- that day.
Well of course -- mean this is like a moral black hole at forty of these a core of quote special projects.
Earmarks were started by Republicans who gained office a year and a half ago because -- were against earmarks.
What happens is is that your morality of this sort of thrusters and then all of a sudden you have to raise money and then all of a sudden you wanna get reelected and then guess what -- earmark becomes a special project as special project becomes almost you know two and a half billion dollars here a billion dollars there.
But if we're gonna dress the big issues that left at least kill this thing.
-- -- and you say that.
That this is just a drop in the bucket when we show.
Be addressing the big issues.
That's right I mean -- -- -- you gotta look at scale you were talking about what 32 -- invincible now and I suppose it.
Yeah it's a good point -- I mean if every single federal dollar spending is bothersome to you.
-- sure this is a terrible thing but it's a small amount of money.
Not every pork barrel project is a terrible product of I -- And I don't relive it exactly right you cut out be bush tax cuts cost a lot more than pork does.
Really I'm -- -- defenders are here but not every pork barrel projects that bad think some of the billion shares of Bridgestone nowhere here -- -- but some milk products or accept.
Let's look at some of the its cash haul project.
From from the last time that there from last year here they are right now where Roland that are one.
Diseases like the small bus Brenda and well you know look at that -- You know they they come in the millions but they all ad happened -- -- -- say the small stuff really.
Ad happening -- after the billions and you know it it's all symbolic but it all does make a -- friends.
Why you EU that you went through the number the big number quickly thirty.
Dollars last year 3202 dollars I know this the fan -- you know you know it that's pails in comparison at things.
I think most people in America would take thirty billion dollars lot of money and it's not that the thirty billion dollars is Spain even spent.
Why -- -- -- -- scrawl their but you know just little stuff like five million dollar so the -- industry to study what utilization.
-- -- We'd be something the one industry could do by themselves without our money.
And that's what galls me and that's why I think this whole earmark pork whatever should be stopped right now because it.
It gets to a -- thought process of -- To spend as they see fit and again the problem is they spend -- so inefficiently.
Aren't stupid stuff.
But as something to be said for our congressmen.
Doing things for their district it's not without merit to actually do something if it -- have merit.
That's right -- and I mean it's not as though.
We don't know who here who's put these earmarks and that's the great thing about that earmark system these days and then do you know is as flawed as it is at least you know -- pork it is.
And promising that you could balance -- federal budget by cutting out pork is a little like saying you can get rich by stop -- -- stop buying toilet Paper I mean it's it's just.
Not gonna work just -- -- big difference well I if you want to remind everybody that was from last year's sun pork and but -- actually that you say.
You can't get rich by not using -- on Paper but the he -- hit by cutting -- things from your -- to move from double play a single player and -- up about a fight.
I'm not how I -- -- -- -- more important yes.
If the whole Starbucks things -- to talk about today it's about ten dollars and you cut that out it doesn't really change my life I'm not many -- because they cut up to -- about today.
But what it does it change of mentality and I think that's really need to do here with congress and our entire government is you know that they're coming to the same anti that we can get away with it sure is 32 billion dollars -- the fact that we're in debt fifteen trillion doesn't sound like a lot.
However we must start somewhere if we do not start here where -- we -- -- Don't cut this stuff out and again it's -- he said this isn't going to anything constructive were actually not making any money off this stop now.
Well here's something else tennis you also talk about doing something that is.
Doable we actually might be able to do this.
In theory be very achievable compared to these big picture things that they won't Hodge whether Social Security Medicare defense of these in theory -- a team of ball.
However they are small they're not they don't add up to your to Starbucks -- your daily spending are not even close as far as -- percent of the government spending.
-- -- -- so crazier -- he showed like aren't just the way government handles small spending projects is do this this kind of weird way I mean.
They got -- managed forest fire situation they got I understood the ones -- on the screen they've got to deal with the job.
Boll -- on the cotton -- means the relative those -- just burning money every step out of its farmers.
How are -- well that's the point first up it gets attached to -- 113 thousand page bill so there's actually no debate over number two it is this moral morass that we may fall into because it all becomes who raise money for you -- -- here -- I'm going to get eight -- market's gonna support you and that's.
It's not the case you always tell her into telling your politicians looking out for your state -- -- -- -- ambitions to be president of the current water isn't what's.
And -- yeah.
These are gonna get you like they haven't -- a lot and they're gonna get money fears that the ones that has bigger plans the number present don't wanna do it doesn't want to look up the country's messengers and others the state they actually were elected by seeking to kind of see who -- working for -- who's got.
Bigger plans and you look at who does the stuff.
Jonas -- I disagree with a 11 point that you made you said they're not burning money in in fact.
Yes maybe they're not burning money but they're just moving the money from.
I spend the money I spend it on thoughtful things that I think -- gonna.
Benefit me or my family are by community when the government takes the money basically they're just giving it wanted to -- -- what industry they're given into the pork industry to study.
Gaffes that he had no methane gas from pigs and by the way there -- always room for graft from humorous.
What happens yeah.
Like running and running but -- spreading his own money I toppled all of this that 32 billion dollars that that they're giving away or they're stealing America wanna call it is borrowed money.
I can understand there's in the regular thirty years ago -- we ran you don't surpluses and -- you know there was extra money OK but I get up and.
-- referring to all government spending falls -- that qualification when I'm so hated the U saps yeah -- and well.
Saying is -- spending in these -- project is no more or less.
Bit better or worse become -- government did the other governments but that is not in the earmarks when it's all the other argument that -- -- up close and make your -- -- and they are always sold dollars if that's not right so this is -- right average look at how the thing you're all like this is the dumbest money they spend it -- It might be -- the -- but look at the debate that if our governor is -- as a business which I believe it should be you look at every time you spend a dollar and what you return equity is to spend that dollar we're getting nothing back as many do a million got up on on on CNN we're gonna get I really kind of.
Both security up ads are an -- I have a higher return -- -- -- program -- -- somebody -- enough fighters you know based on your logic to better.
Arguments is equal each other out -- that's not that that's not right.
Are there is a a process that -- it's been created by this again just sort of moral ambiguity that that that -- -- just a -- we should go to and I don't think it's that process that leads to sloppy.
Money here but sloppy muddy up the -- -- still that's out of the last.