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Well funny thing happening at -- -- Republican debate the front runners actually agree.
Hi everybody I'm Neil Cavuto.
And -- on top of Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich talking up a new plan by the red and blue to -- missiles and Green maybe a lot of Green with a bipartisan what they're calling Medicare that.
It's it's actually an offshoot of Paul Ryan's a regional fixed the same fixing my ever called Newt Gingrich slams.
So I asked Gingrich about the switch to -- Iowa.
This might -- confused congressman Ryan and others for whom you would -- with his initial Medicare fix.
That it was right wing social engineering later on you backed off that comment said that there was much you could find mr.
Ryan's plan delight.
Can you blame governor Romney for saying you have it consistency problem on this it.
But in the business of blaming them around.
I'm I'm in the business of trying to understand what we can do -- a policy governor Romney came up frank it was a very good variation on the -- and plan.
Which allowed the maintenance of the current system.
Paul has adopted that and I think at a very brave act play by senator Ron Wyden you have a Democrat willing to cosponsor the bill.
I've endorsed the concept today I think is a big step forward and I think governor Romney deserve some of the credit.
For -- help figure out a way to make this thing workable so.
I think it's a nice thing to actually have a bipartisan plan Washington that we could actually look at in a positive way and hope.
Would help save Medicare.
Governor Romney he -- responded -- compliment yeah.
Republicans and Democrats came together with senator Wyden and congressman Paul Ryan to say we have a solution.
To remove that 62 trillion dollars this is a big day for our kids and our grandkids it's an enormous achievement.
It means we finally have the prospect.
Of dealing with something which has the potential of crushing.
Our future generations and a good Democrat and a good Republican came together.
This is the impact of people on both sides of the -- that care about America -- a critical time and I applaud -- it's good news.
All right so -- likes it -- Like sit what to make of that because the white does well it's not a big fan of it correct either of these guys.
It's already blasting this Medicare plan saying it would end Medicare.
As we know -- for millions of seniors.
So are we looking at granny off a cliff part two I'm still convinced that -- regardless.
It's what I digress but I also got free I don't know it's defense.
Martin -- what do you negatives.
They -- the White House communications people said that this plan from Wyden and ride by the way who is a Democrat.
The calls Medicare to -- are on the buy and -- scare.
Is part of the democrats' playbook and 2012 they are going to talk about it.
That it's going to caught that Republicans want to end it they want to push grandy and grade dating all the -- This is going to be something that they tried to hammer but I do believe that Ryan Wyden plan.
At least opens the door because it's bipartisan to a normal rational conversation about it.
Reasons and I don't -- -- -- who want to hear certainly the opening about the journal dorks -- -- -- thank you very much need but okay.
-- the idea was that this was going to.
Give people flexibility you can go with this voluntary plan or you could stick with the medical plans and -- easier said than done and -- put -- but it's.
-- went out the fact if a Democrat on board top Republican on board.
Makes it bipartisan bill I.
You know look you we were talking earlier that he before we move forward on about the the -- poll numbers did Reese approval numbers very bad.
I think there's a degree of fatigue with the president right now in terms of he's against anything.
That makes sense and -- started -- if you think about it Simpson Bowles was it that was another one of these bipartisan ways of dealing with a major problem deficits in Social Security.
And entitlements and reforming it he's against it is all a bipartisan.
Plan he's against this a bipartisan plan.
At some point that -- -- starts seeping into electric people say what do you for the status quo.
And -- tea.
I'll say this right now that this president the economy could get better with his presence could -- to have an uphill battle unless of course Newt Gingrich gets elected just -- caveat that.
It gets nominated this president have an uphill battle because he is the status quo and the status -- not good.
Of course we were exactly Larry we're we're we're leader supposedly.
And the snaps -- right now Adam was since.
Looks like a president resisting any any adjustments.
They in Medicare the program as we have a right now that he would be good for content and even among Medicare recipients who like.
The deal I have now.
Well I I think politically the president is not against any consensus or anything right now Charlie he's against anything that the Republicans say because my vote like Democrats this was back yeah I -- I -- -- he's running.
He's running for president I mean this essentially is the Ryan plan whatever the mayor I had whatever -- -- -- car.
The book because then for the same reason that Romney and and and -- agreed I got some idea the other night might -- -- I believe -- Erskine Bowles joined with with woods with Alan Simpson that I loved being a -- I love -- grilled by you while I'm trying to make my point which is.
He hasn't by the way.
He's not against -- -- he just didn't do anything about it I mean I agree with you.
He has not been good on this and is not being good on on this issue either it's a little silly by the way.
To suggest that we outgrew the Republicans invented the scare tactics -- medics scare remember those Sarah Palin's death panels and obamacare was -- You know I was I don't honestly I do I you're right -- both side plenty of blame on -- -- -- I'm -- and a year and now this example Scott on this example.
Where we have at least the beginning of a bipartisan.
Agreement to try to address to a combination of -- we have now.
Mixing a voluntary effort if you wanna go that way.
A move past this program pay off the cliff the administration takes a -- I think that to a lot of Americans who want to see progress on entitlements this is gonna look like a president running for reelection.
-- High hopes O'Neill and like you said it is a good start I.
I don't see what the big deal is guys about saying this is the end of Medicare as we know it because Medicare is broke anyway it's gonna hurt.
These 54 and under people that this you know they -- well iPad anyway but but but I.
-- -- -- -- -- -- That's why I'm giving you the truth because the truth this way if you're fifty -- under your -- we -- Medicare as the winds -- now anyway waive his no way to work it out when we went right.
You're just born under continued.
If you're an elderly on Medicare is not gonna work out for you anyway given the state it's in today I don't -- I don't want to change the plan I decide wanted to write daily.
I did have but one point is the reason this works as tactic for the Democrats.
-- -- Republican or Democrat on Medicare once there and it.
They liked it for the most part they can it's a base of people not parents for example they spend a whole.
Lot more money.
In Medicare than they will ever put into it and we have not yet had to true.
Way parents are stumbling around on the Medicare -- to get -- they have this rich.
I've -- runner whose what what I'm sorry -- -- it out of the medical bills I.
What are you break it down.
-- there there'll Medicare and it's not but not.
We have not there there is an argument during an argument to be made that let me help in the head and my dad helping mom and dad and not even among Medicare.
Isn't blocked off the collected to Medicare is part of our fiscal crisis but we don't have to pay for it yet I -- we're still borrowing money at one point I know at one point 8% yeah.
Apple -- Europe and they say you know I mean I'm not saying it's we have a sea change here but people look at Europe and see what's going on there and -- saying you know at some point.
When he's become that of the point where we can't afford stuff when we honestly -- reportedly troubled about -- -- an appearance.
You know I'm sorry I'm not gonna take your cholesterol medication if you gonna eight sheet would.
That's Kalus and a little video off the shelf and on line.
You're -- a -- they have here called entitlement they put money -- adult old labeled their Medicare.
Republican or Democrat they all think the same -- you'll get any of it.
Yeah evident when you don't look at their artillery and they're gonna in the people who made you and are counted and the commitment.
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