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But what -- -- do here tonight Mr.
President to solve the nation's problems here just we you and you and me we can do it went under idea for it right.
Which -- class warfare business it Democrats are -- -- on the country what is this we didn't see that during your administration.
You know I don't look at its class warfare I think if you look at what's happened over the last thirty years of middle class is lost ground.
And in the last decade the middle class incomes -- basically even before the recession the collapse before the financial collapse.
Median income was 2000 dollars a year -- -- it was after inflation when I left office.
I don't mind paying more taxes but.
Because I think I got the benefit of the tax cuts under President Bush and the benefit of being in the top 1% to my income went up.
But that won't solve the problem.
That'll help us balance the budget when there's growth again but we have to change the whole job structure of America we've got to.
Reorient our economy toward the future that's the real and.
But that's not being discussed what's being discussed by the Occupy Wall Street people and by some elements on the far left is the 1% -- Mean you know we went up -- our fair share.
I think I am paying my fair share not in mind -- -- you had me at that in mind pain of that but you know I found something and -- -- today.
Do you know between you know among you Obama and bush who had the highest tax receipts -- three of you you know.
The bush tax cuts generated.
More money to the federal government two point six billion UR hi -- two billion and Obama's high has been to two billion.
So wonder prosperity to tax cuts under bush more money flowed into the federal government so I think it's all a ruse -- taxer stuff.
But well it's not quite true the the.
There was a more prosperity under him -- -- Unemployment and I'm not sing more jobs I'm saying when the prosperity the country goes up so -- the -- trichet exactly all right.
Source convulsions back at Erskine Bowles who's back and says let's cut deal corporate tax and 35 to 26.
What is Obama say -- -- the president -- Now.
If you look at what the Bowles Simpson commission recommended I think -- lot of great things in that report and why didn't president taken.
I don't know the answer of that but I think the.
I think that what should be done.
What both Simpson did is what I think should be done some variation but they said.
This long term that's gonna kill us we have to deal with -- but nobody gets out of the big annual deficit.
Are -- growing debt without economic growth.
So when the whole world -- fly out of its back and interest rates are virtually zero and there's no demand for capital.
You can't balance the budget because if you cut spending in those environments are if you raise taxes too much in those environment.
Basically your revenues go down to make -- worse more than worth so what both Simpson says -- let's adopt some short term strategies to get growth going.
Then let's have a long term debt reduction package that's what I think we should do and -- I think it'll work I personally.
I read every word of the Bowles Simpson report and I thought it was quite good but I was a pro.
-- that the president did embrace it because he gave him a pathway out of the mess and then that's where we are right now.
Now one more question about -- class warfare you are re really convinced Democrats are playing this card because all it's all we hear.
It is tax the rich tax -- rich tax the rich.
I don't mind paying 40% and that was a high and -- you all right bush cut it back down at 34%.
I don't mind the Mac to the forty.
But I don't want 500 billion dollars -- Solyndra.
And it's bankrupt.
No but I think.
Let's look -- all I think.
The idea of moving to a cleaner energy future and doing more energy efficient -- it -- -- sense and the what happened this woman who was unique case they had a they were trying to move out of photovoltaic cells.
Into a more efficient so cylinder.
And they could do it.
But what happened this with the Chinese producing more and subsidizing more.
And with the Americans in the business doing more the price of the traditional photovoltaic cells dropped so much.
That it became -- non economical thing I personally prefer.
In in those kinds of cases.
It's just loan -- and not loan guarantees but.
You know tax credits and tax actually produce -- because then if you and I have a different technology we're on even footing.
Right but a half trillion dollars down the drain mean not I just it's -- OK now let's go to.
-- civilians are -- 500 million go on now.
I think it was 500 no was no you're right -- 500 million I misspoke -- -- the little money but yet it's not on that level.
OK in your book you say the key to get in the economy started it -- and get the banks to start lending money.
How are you gonna do that you can't force the -- excellent well.
Well first I think there's there's two big pots of money that don't know about the deficit.
Bank banks and corporate treasuries.
Headquartered in America.
Have about one point seven trillion dollars uncommitted to investment overseas.
Which I think -- bring home if we did lower the corporate tax rate is a sense of both commission recommends.
And what they recommended -- Let's lower the rate and broaden the base.
And let everybody play something but have a competitive right and I think that's a good idea I think we can do that.
And I recommended in this book that we potentially let corporations repatriate their money by it would no tax if they hire more people with a and if if they -- the capital gains right into whatever they want to and then we should take that money.
And seat and infrastructure bank and then take private -- do like other countries most other countries let private investors and from all over the world invested their infrastructure.
And just use -- -- they're government funds as the base to attract a private capital but I think that makes a lot of sense that you could do that now.
On the housing here's the problem.
Most banks actually don't own a lot of housing debt mortgage debt.
They just service the mortgages and they sell off the mortgage and that's what got us into the Fannie Mae Freddie Mac -- -- VHS FH.
But it's still freezing everything.
And look there's a more liberal way to do this more conservative way to do it but the main thing to do it is to do it fast we need to move through the housing debt more quickly.
And what I favor.
To turn this.
Merger of the banks and become the where they can -- commercial and investment operations I think we should turn on their heads so that -- it.
In other words -- -- commercial -- with a lot of mortgage that.
In return for writing that debt down are lengthening the terms -- lower interest rates.
So that they don't get killed let them convert what they give up today.
Into an equity investment my house so that when housing prices go up again in the house -- so they get split the profits.
But they clean up their books now they don't have bad debt on the books it's not over hanging down there or not.
They've got plenty of -- alone they've got almost two trillion dollars in cash uncommitted to loans.
But it's hard when you don't know what the what's gonna happen -- more.
That's right everybody scared and -- Obama's leadership has not.
Engendered confidence and that's why he's not pulling off I don't want decent family that -- -- -- say one thing about it.
That it it is a complicated thing but one of the problems we've got is that historically.
The legal resolution of this business has been at the state level.
You say they try to get all the attorneys general together.
Then the New York says I want different deal gets your juices California.
I think what we need if you look at that Citibank settlement Virginia I'm in back of America so.
They said okay we'll get paid a half million dollars to people about these home mortgage securities.
Now we're clear now let's give put a masters an expert on this and put all the mortgages than their let them disposal but we need to run through this thing in her.
And if you look at what happened to Japan -- the -- did you go back couple hundred years these things take five or ten years to get over unless you move through that story that's what we need to do.
And you basically mention the attorneys general.
Each lobbying for their own state 28.
Don't want Obama can't sue in federal government 28 at fifty write what you make a prediction Supreme Court can overturn -- I doubt it I hope not -- no you hope not -- nice Democrat is loyal guy but the individual mandate.
Very troubling in the constitution would you say that is the big hinge.
And no I disagree I don't I think that.
It's not any different from.
Requiring people on motorcycles to Wear helmets public safety is a public safety on helmets and and the motorcycles as serious as a driver safety it is.
If if you insist on.
Riding a motorcycle without a helmet and you have a wreck and you don't have insurance.
Then you're saying I have a right to be supported for the rest my life by everybody else well.
If you gonna take that as the criteria than you can say you -- any big Macs because you're gonna hostility him every day is gonna cost the taxpayer I don't think the federal government just him.
Just stay and gentleman's agreement so you say -- -- not gonna overturn.
I say they -- -- -- You may be right I think that they certainly.
Would like to they've played like that though or -- in the -- did and what the states and based on the Citizens United thing but if you look at.
Clears -- way I look at an entirely different way let's look at register economics.
The people who are defending the status quo.
Are defending a system.
That is the only system in the world the charges seventeen and a half percent.
To ensure income every year to ensure 84% of the people.
Every no one upload rich country the world spent more than twelve -- come to -- amount -- some people.
And we don't get better health outcomes.
And we're spotting our competitors a minimum a minimum by 150 billion dollars a year it's terrible economics -- you know.
-- -- -- -- You know solutions that let the insurance companies compete -- -- let everybody get in the game -- try to -- -- let the print your insurance come companies compete across state -- that's right in other words create a national market for insurance.
What you're saying we should create a stable.
Thus they -- -- the same -- regulator had let them regulate what happens there but let everybody.
Compete and again you party is -- want that they why they -- that's one place for our -- reply yeah I think I have to defect here mr.
-- is what I'm hearing now I think you let it get its act I'm for the an individual mandate issue.
That's the conservative position individual mandate but I do believe.
That insurance congress should be able to compete right now we stand 200 billion dollars here.
And health care administrative costs on private insurance much more than we would spend -- we had any other country's system including.
Where there's an individual mandate and all the -- product and it is subsidized.
Gloria there's a million people and no one's come -- you can be that easy in those kind of numbers they can't do with 320 name picture and couldn't play chancellor and I are just society and look to business is you know -- gone crazy that don't want this nobody wants it in the business community.
Well nobody -- what they've been told about it and have that it would take and long and have to get through it but I think.
The sun and no reason we couldn't have the idea that we had spent fifteen sound more.
Than any other country on health care.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Are you took office 93.
About four and a half.
Million people come across the board.
You left office seven million people a year -- across -- -- what could you secure.
-- economy got better at the long borders while I know we have a fence you know in San Diego.
And it worked it worked pretty well what -- -- kind of -- All the way through because for one thing.
Back then even the Texas Republicans and -- because you could have done by executive portable who cares what I don't know like -- -- -- but.
Nobody was upset about it then people moving back in -- crossed the Rio Grande I was upset.
I know you were but I think.
It's a mistake I think it was a mistake -- in this nineteen year old -- college student from new.
York who came here which was two month -- back home I think I agree with and that Mexican woman from Washington State back home -- kids here I don't want anything to do with any of that brutality but I do you think the federal government is let -- down since 1984.
In the sense they have not secure the southern border and they could have and they didn't well I think you know.
If you really think -- -- -- build the whole -- that's but that would secure and I do.
And a lot of people agree that some doubt now the -- just I want you always look forward narcotics is another component of this not just people you have.
That I agree with we -- we should do more but most of that can be controlled.
Most of that is not brought -- on people's backs most of that coming over on the road that we could control that's right our implying.
And we did a lot better on that when I was an office that.
Let me just say one thing about the -- I know that.
This is a hot issue because the economy's down but one of America's great strengths going -- The cause of immigrants not because of the birth rate among.
Basically European got to get the best and brightest we have absolutely we already -- -- the younger workforce on average -- Europe and Japan.
And in twenty years if the Chinese don't change -- one child policy.
Are -- immigrants then we'll have a younger workforce in China that means America will be in great shape.
If we get out of this mess we're in.
For the next thirty to forty years that it has to be done fair has been an orderly agreement -- him okay Guantanamo Bay close it.
I think it can be close but you close it if you present.
But I'm not sure that I know enough to -- list but I believe in there but I -- I would I'm probably about a -- that the first place but I'd like to see it close really you would never opened it in the first place where you gonna put all these captured terrorists overseas where would you have put them.
I think there -- places like to be kept in America.
But then as soon as they go on American soil they have the rights of the American people in the under the constitution.
And these are these are not necessarily true I have a big difference of opinion about.
What the law should be -- modified -- -- along that why keep them here in America when you have the least spacing Guantanamo.
Not into watching -- -- but -- and I believe they've improved the conditions -- Guantanamo in a minute I -- us all the legal objections to it.
So I doubt if it can be close now and it may be the only practical alternative.
OK to you don't feel that strongly about education spending is a big democratic Tenet spend more spend more spend more.
We spend in the United States more than any other country with Switzerland and again a tiny country our test scores are going down.
Not about money it's about parenting and it's about discipline in the schools in my opinion am -- wrong.
It's about those two things -- not just -- to.
There is a reason that let's say these Kipp schools that charter schools do so well and low -- -- -- it's also about having a culture of learning in the schools' homework.
Discipline discipline right and hammering home the belief that every kid can learn every kid will learn and holding yourself to high standards there -- it's.
There's a lot of evidence that we we actually know what works from the school.
And one of the reasons I was always for charter schools and -- will choices.
That if you have a monopoly on customers and revenues.
The good ideas don't necessarily travel fast I remember when I first moved to Harlem.
I went to the Frederick Douglass academy which is a public school.
And they had -- you know 90% hostile graduation right to scored above the state average on the New York regents exam because they had a definable culture.
Wanted to be entrepreneurs they operated -- some store within the school -- told the school uniforms and they could even still thinks of their parents if they were eligible for this school lunch program.
I think that the most important thing is to take what we know.
And basically make sure it's me and implemented -- -- -- believe that.
If you look at the spending trends and all over America.
We're spending the relatively smaller percentage.
Of the school dollar on teacher -- -- and a relatively greater percentage of the school dollar on other things and we were thirty years ago.
And I think we need to look at how we can change some rules Pentagon's.
But I think you're spending is is fine I think the culture -- you put it isn't fine and that's what allocation that you might be spent enough money.
But there may be other ways to Alec and state it's a -- thing OK now pres Obama it's his chances to be -- reelected all right say 5050 at this point would that be fair.
I think there were better than that why why would you think that when most of the polls show is approvals low forties and most people.
60% feel the country's headed in the wrong direction because his approvals up in the last few weeks and because.
Of this payroll tax cut worries for it than it looks like the house -- -- and that's -- -- approval registry number 11%.
You don't think I -- and let me also -- Because I think.
He's out there on and he gets himself -- -- gets an opponent.
Who's for the next four years who do -- more likely take at the right direction.
No but he's going to be I think it's going to be referendum on President Obama anyway no matter who it is you are when Newt Gingrich.
I respect his ability -- think.
And do and -- eventually hammered out a really productive relationship -- -- respect him as a man.
I don't disrespect anybody.
Who worked for me in good -- I think.
He was way more political and I would've been he he's defended.
What he called scorched earth politics and I certainly -- the beneficiary of the but I think that -- unfair tactics on you.
The -- on -- you know not in his mind that you don't mind.
I don't think about it like that they either like -- didn't we see an enemy.
Of yours -- you and White House.
Until -- got to be speaker and until the government shut down things the public.
And then even on daytime.
-- we worked together for five years would you -- form.
No I'm gonna vote for -- -- Why would you vote for just take the president out of the equation again a good Democrat why would you vote for Newt Gingrich why why would you not cast a golf fan I can't take that.
Out of the equation -- I believe.
In a whole different direction and energy policy -- think the president some good job of foreign policy and I think that.
-- and we've got a better economic strategy.
Then when he's likely to implement I thought the best things that's sad and the camp rhino Gingrich with what -- said two debates go on foreign policy debate.
That has immigration issues should be handled within the very next day said.
-- like the ninth circuit decision sort of forget -- ninth circuit many minutes -- some other decision you billions of our -- federal judge so he's on this program tonight Gingrich is coming up right behind you bet he'll be very entertaining well we'll look we've challenged him but anyway -- let me just say this.
When we were working together.
And I think he has a lot of knowledge.
And I think he.
Comes up with some quite creative ideas.
The the primary the purpose of a primer.
Is to test everybody's strengths and weaknesses -- the metal and everybody's got strengths and weaknesses and this is actually -- -- dynamic -- between.
Now between Newt Gingrich and governor Romney and we'll see.
Who can regroup and rebound absolutely now what our on this what about Ronnie you know.
A little bit -- always.
Unlike Hugo like the Massachusetts Health -- bill and the Massachusetts systems more expensive than the rest of America but it was before the health care bill passed.
And inflation in health care costs in Massachusetts have been less than in the country as a whole since it passed.
But I was particularly grateful to him because after President Bush took office.
Even though he President Bush.
Was one of 49 governors signing a letter to me asking and the congress asking that the americorps program our national service program be indefinitely extended and expanded.
He was under a lot of pressure get -- -- it because it'd been started under a Democrat.
And Mitt Romney helped save the idea that.
Young people should be able to serve and America as well -- in the peace corps overseas and in so doing.
-- some college credit and I respected that that's really my only substantive contact with a.
OK if you had to vote between running Gingrich if you snuck up to New Hampshire this year anybody can vote in a primary you go for.
-- don't -- -- Pope meant no way you can as the any compact I also like constantly you know and if I voted for him not be in the 1% but.
He arguably has the most consistently conservative economic record and about -- like he did very well in Utah is no doubt about it.
Now -- your wife is running against a Barack Obama in New Hampshire and this must bring back memories to you it's the press favored Obama.
No I think yes all right no doubt about it I don't think there's any doubt that the American press favored Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton in the primaries.
Now is that gonna happen again as the American press gonna favor Barack Obama over the Republican candidate.
Wounds afterwards that you know the answer is yes.
Now my question is why why it is the American press.
Favoring the more liberal candidate.
I think it was more to it than that last but.
What looked at what -- but I think tell -- do it but I didn't like your wife because of what reason.
I'm not going -- she's the secretary of state nothing I -- can be helpful on this this week I you have an independent guys that yes I respect -- and I'm gonna keep it to myself I respect that I respect that but you obviously have thought about this and you thought about the media and how it handled.
The primary the democratic primary last time I could see it in a rise and I and I respect the fact that you don't wanna burn.
Any bridges here but there is and -- in the Fox News Channel now you're in the no spin zone.
And this channel was created.
Because of the -- the labyrinth that the media had set up that was largely liberal.
Point and you're beneficiary of it to a little bit of that against bush the elder.
And it still is there to this day so generally speaking why -- any more liberal than conservative.
I don't know that it's always been that way.
For example in 1992 when -- around.
I was -- them I was the part of the beneficiary of -- and primer.
I kinda primary but in the mean you waiver of the -- right and so.
I think that.
Lot of it is.
There's an element -- it's like what's new.
And now it's like a conflict now it's like ghost story.
Nothing I can say will contribute to anything good happening in America.
-- although I have not gonna contribute who have.
Three more questions for you let you -- and I appreciate you coming and it's.
Today Vice President Biden said.
Actually it was printed today but he told Newsweek magazine the Taliban.
Is not an enemy of the United States.
I -- one.
And since you.
Had to deal with the Taliban.
Training al-Qaeda before 9/11 you certainly know.
What the Taliban is all about and I believe the vice president is wrong.
-- -- -- Well I think.
I don't know that they trying them but they certainly gave himself hit a safe -- no doubt and that they.
Would give them safe haven again if they were -- to operate and Afghanistan salute one of the reasons I've always supported our mission there.
And so I think what he meant was.
That if the current government in Afghanistan thought they could reach an accommodation that we -- all live with.
Soldiers there to dominate.
One of the things that I would be concerned about and always have been with the Taliban is how.
Miserable -- made life were so many women and little -- absolutely and that they you know what I mean just downright.
And abusive he thinks it's -- And so they aren't in the know the United States they are enemy of everything we believe -- -- -- tried to empower them when Mullah Omar was.
The family of merit in them Solomon Laden's.
It's sort of cemented.
They're shepherding of al-Qaeda and I think.
What vice president probably was saying it.
Al-Qaeda was our affirmative enemy they were trying to kill us in America they were trying to kill us and Iraq and elsewhere in Africa and lots of other places.
And the Taliban itself and not conducted out of area operations against.
That's probably true.
But that doesn't mean that I think we should.
Not be really concerned if they were to govern Afghanistan.
Again -- -- do think there an -- to the United States now Iran is the most difficult foreign situation right now because of the nuclear threat.
And -- no politician.
Seems to have a handle on that because China and Russia will not.
Help in the sanctions against Iraq yet we hurt them but not enough for them to pull back.
So the next president of United States gonna have to deal with this this nuclear thing how would you do with.
Will -- First of all let me say.
They're probably a lot of things that I don't know because I have declined to take any security briefing since -- became secretary of state.
Unless those someone in the White House specifically asked me to like when I went to North Korea to bring those young journalists home.
But it here's what I think about it.
I think that.
When -- IAEA finally said Iran was trying to get a nuclear weapons seem to be pretty far along the road.
That was the biggest.
And kept secret in the world I mean anybody been paying attention knew that.
When we don't know may be exactly when that would happen.
But I also know that.
And dealing with -- this complicated that's what the Israelis think too.
I mean when you ask yourself what are your options here I do not believe the president should take any military option off the table.
And I think they should keep trying to find a way to work through this.
There may be efforts right now that we don't even know about -- -- sabotage -- -- like JBL.
Why won't Russia and China help ones.
I'm surprised because they.
But partly it is to maintain.
A sense of neutrality that they're not totally in the American camp -- -- they know the danger but world but commerce and everything but it's dangerous for the Russians because of all the restive.
Muslims on their underbelly.
Many of whom have.
Difficult living conditions and are fertile ground for.
Terrorism yes terrorism.
And it's dangers for the Chinese because.
Of the Muslims and there northwest.
In the same kind of circumstances.
But that they.
Probably won't first claim on oil -- There are lots of things going on there.
But the -- bottom line is.
I think the Americans and Israelis and the Sunni Arab states that are very -- about it.
Hope and presume they're all working together -- hope and presume they're sharing intelligence and I hope in another -- that they are looking at all their options.
That could be world war three right there because Israel's not a -- to happen is gonna win and you know what's gonna happen after that but today.
But there may be more than one way to skin care -- -- that they sent him back pretty good whoever.
-- -- up their computer capacity.
You know all that's going on absolutely no and so -- I wouldn't only thing I'm saying is it might not become calamitous but.
And what a lot of the Americans and -- -- was a word about it.
If you try to bomb the facility.
-- still going to be over the centrifuges there underground.
In an urban area yet.
But if you take care of the if you take care of their structure if you bomb them you can basically knock out their infrastructure to deliver anything yes.
But most people but -- they -- bothers me what.
Just me as a citizen -- what I know about this.
Crazy they are terrible loss in nuclear weapon because their whole society would disappear but they wouldn't launch.
Do we give it off to somebody BO so what they would do is -- but what I think what happened is.
Is if you have all this thistle material.
You give it to a terrorist group as I have a series of suitcase bombs.
And that could terrify and paralyze the world without creating a nuclear cloud over Jerusalem and it's really it did -- deeply troubling thing.
It is okay final question you end up President Bush the elder -- lot of humanitarian work and then you and President Bush the younger.
Rally people to give millions of dollars.
After the Haitian earthquake.
I sit on the -- that you guys did a noble thing.
But I didn't believe that that money was going to be used.
Dated -- services.
But nothing was -- when proven Haiti and what I -- -- current if you go then now it's just as bad now as it was before the earthquake.
Poverty corruption chaos in the -- -- -- that you're an expert on hate.
-- of the foundation.
In Haiti I give a lot of money to Haiti by the way because I've been there and I feel so sorry for those children over there.
There's something very wrong in Haiti what is.
Well for one thing.
Establishment of -- republic.
Look what happened in the beginning -- to music.
Tucson will mature those -- slave leader who overthrew the French empire and establish -- democracy.
Was lured to Switzerland in the talks by France.
And he disappeared later killed and we want come -- to -- And for 200 years Haiti's many either abused and neglected by its neighbors and they've engaged in self abuse and self neglect.
But I have seen a change this last time.
That I was there and I've been working now I go there remarked you know I'm not China and the money President Bush and our -- we have set up.
To invest in businesses and we -- -- -- million more dollars.
Carlos Slim and -- Canadian -- was playing playing -- -- to set up the small business loan fund because the -- down there don't loan money -- small business.
We are -- structural reforms last time I was there.
It marked for months -- the streets have been the claims to have been in the third drivers I've been going there.
We have thousands of people moving out of the camps we have tens of thousand more kids in school.
There's a new industrial park in the north that the United States spearheaded.
With a lot of help from others.
That is now open for business.
The Korean companies gonna build the first textile mill the country's ever had and how are 20000 people.
To my clothes.
A young Americans.
Is gonna set up -- furniture factory there with 3000 jobs.
And the new prime minister of Haiti working for the president.
Is a Haitian national who was -- -- you're unemployed it's a doctor and he's straight as a string.
And he's as good as gold and the president has one great attribute.
He will make a decision.
In the past Haiti has been.
Bogged down as you poured out -- corruption but also by and capacity.
The economic interest sort of control the country for so long.
Preserving preferring a 100% of -- -- economic pie to a smaller percentage of great big economic.
That's all beginning to change we still got a chance to do something and the biggest cellphone Rotterdam their Denis O'Brien did to sell his headed an action group for me through the global initiative.
We've raced almost 300 million dollars down there now and new commitments for business investments gonna create thousands of jobs so I think the main -- we gotta do.
Keep -- in the past few government insist on transparency so note before she can and create more jobs in the private sector you're optimistic about it.
I'm more optimistic than I've ever been and it's now.
It's getting -- and the arts and craft sector is the one sector of the economy it's already stronger than it was before the earthquake.
Okay -- -- we appreciate you coming in the book is back to work.
And I hope you come back you know it took a long time to commit here.
Look it you're this mortgage thing is ready made for you.
You need to look we really need to figure out.
What do you think it was a good conservative resolution of -- I'm not a conservative and an independent but we will look -- look you know -- we watch everybody but if you look at this this whole thing for 200 years since buildings have been widely known.
When you have a financial collapse and a mortgage collapse you can build from that.
Yes it but it X ten years to get over unless you clean up the mortgage mess quicker.
And so you don't like to remove us that in my book but we can put this country back to work if we get doing work and I believe that and that's what you wrote the book and you should suggest -- President Obama that he appoint me.
Secretary of housing after.
If he's really are -- are.
A capsule look a little old -- held tonight.
-- -- -- -- and I -- -- that I do is said yeah I don't real -- did it really I did hear that.
Merry Christmas and -- president pledges -- Merry Christmas bill.
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