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And here's something else the Obama administration has decided to do grant more than 40000.
TSA screeners you know those folks who checked out at the airport.
It's giving them limited to union organizing rights so does that enhance the security of the flying public or is it a political hug for union.
You called the board is a former prosecutor -- Cates is a criminal defense attorney Nicole would you like this idea why.
Well I think if you have happy employees and they feel like they have a voice a lot of times they're gonna be able to do better work and they're gonna be able to feel like that if they have a problem and come -- union and have a collective voice to complain about it.
Without repercussions so I think it could very well have a positive impact on the working group of people.
Who are employed checking our security.
The -- haven't I've got to say I would not want to be one of those two TSA agents I think it's kind of a miserable job in May be a thankless one.
But at the same time I don't know why organizing it you know union is gonna make the job any better.
Well probably not gonna make the job any better and it is a tough job but in today's day and age it is a job.
These TSA workers right now have better health insurance that I've got be self employed.
They -- they already get good benefits they already have a job.
You know the FBI the CIA other law enforcement -- -- law enforcement office officers can't unionized.
And they can't for a reason because there you know they may need to be called on to do extraordinary things to protect the public.
And and you know they need to be able that that -- management needs to be free to vote the tip to deploy them at any time any unions just gonna get in the way.
Well -- they're not allowed well strike under these new union organizing rights.
They can negotiate.
Well go ahead go in the -- what its foot in the door well there's -- getting your foot and they and other.
He actually law enforcement does unionize all most police officers the -- to a member of the union and doesn't affect their ability to provide security to provide.
The services -- law enforcement police officers provides so.
If launch horsemen can have a union and can be successful -- it still provide the public with a measure of protection that the public expects.
I don't see YA the TSA should be any different.
The head of the union that wants to represented these.
TSA screeners and I guess they're gonna vote on exactly who is going to represent them.
But one union had said this he said today marks the recognition of a fundamental human right for 40000.
Patriotic federal employees who have been disenfranchised.
Since the inception of the agency disenfranchised.
What that -- they haven't been disenfranchised.
They're being traded to sit treated the same as FBI agents CIA agents.
DEA agents that -- officials said that this is a foot in the door you're saying they don't have the right to strike.
Well just because they don't have a right to strike doesn't mean and then that they're not gonna strike.
That doesn't mean that like in Canada when their workers.
They did a slow down they decided to search every bag individually and they virtually stopped air travel when Canada in 2006.
Just because this was a political promise and it doesn't stop them from making a new political promise to give unions more and more power as it goes long.
The union boss himself said this is a foot in the door.
And Dwyane is your name did you give boss is John and that's why I got that -- I apologize for that.
And -- what about I mean is this really about the safety of the plot flying public I mean.
Our our all of the sudden airplane's going to be safer because of this or is this more of a political payoff to the president's union supporters.
Well it's hard to say whether or not the public will be safer but certainly if you have a union and the union gets a lot of complaints from the employees about -- you know we're feeling like we have to work extensive hours are too many hours that makes it.
Hard pressed to pay attention -- to focus on the things that we'd like to -- on and they get a lot of complaints like that they can go with their collective voice and say.
We need to make amendments to the way to ships are being handed out and to how long a person can work in a row without a break.
And then what you have is -- happier person standing there.
At the gate which sounds trite but it can matter when that person is actually supposed to be focused on checking the contents of these bags -- -- make sure that all the passengers are safe.
All right -- you have a problem without.
Well you know happy workers are there right now our workers that have a job and these people have jobs not only do they have a job.
We have a government job with full government benefits.
I mean you know these are not bad jobs I mean it's not it's not -- not great I mean being ATF agent.
You know is -- going to be you know it it probably isn't the real fun job but you know what they get full government benefits like I said they get they get more benefits -- I get being self.
Employed Nicole what's -- what's to prevent themselves from saying hey that there are only 40000 dollars and we're working way too hard we need 80000 and the taxpayers should pay for it.
And that makes our union all that much bigger and gives us you know less to do.
-- just because they asked doesn't mean they get but at least if they have a collective voice they can say this is why we want what we want and the person who's asking doesn't he doesn't suffer the repercussions.
Because there's a group asking so you're not -- single -- a particular person who's complaining because.
They feel like they're overworked or perhaps the reporting that the other employees are paying enough attention because they're over tired.
They're not gonna face repercussions are going to be able to hear from a union represented you can say look this is a problem.
Oftentimes also for example in law enforcement when police officers have.
Things that they have to deal with through the year -- the union representative can help to make sure that the union members are all treated.
Equally by a -- administration for example when so you have people who feel like they have a little power.
Here's the thing this TSA was created under the Bush Administration but the Bush Administration would not allow all of this union of this organization to unionize.
I'm now under the Obama administration it's going to be allowed to do that.
It's not like on a subsequent president is going to be able to dismantle the union is it.
Well probably not an end and under bush -- was up bipartisan.
When they created the TSA.
It was bipartisan decision that they couldn't collectively bargain.
And they tried to make them in the form -- the CIA the FBI they tried to make it so that that that you know this is a security agency you know.
You know historically unions.
Only benefit the union members you know it's not gonna benefit that the taxpayers is not gonna benefit the flying public.
The only thing that this is gonna benefit our President Obama because he's going to be getting more union votes and did they union workers themselves that's the only people that are gonna benefit from that we're gonna have to leave it at that going Kate's the called the board good discussion thank you both.
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