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Battle of the White Boards: Karl Rove Surprises 'The Five'

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    Hosts make their predictions for the New Hampshire primary

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What was it look.

Know what I would always use it to buy it you wouldn't be used in the white board.

And what are you doing there won't take down -- -- I was gonna and I -- I was gonna do the white people with I would Obama look look.

-- board's size doesn't really matter what I was gonna say.

Yeah well that's because you got to compensate for this pop up ethnic.

Article that you -- it out completely we saw Carl it's now the five and an eight.

We're bringing you can't run our special and you find election coverage but let me give medical Beckel goodness nobody -- right now we're I have AMR's.

Yes and so you started this white or a while ago that would you have as your top picks.

And I got got -- got a hold up so let's blow this thing but I got I got lousy markers here these this is pathetic -- think if you're gonna use a white board giving a -- -- golden light according Greg -- yet we thought we'd buy those the smell them not a robot.

-- just six years should take he did a prime candidate five in an OK I won't let her brief period of time I.

I got Romney in first place Paul in Huntsman in a battle for second and then.

Santorum and Gingrich in a battle for fourth and fifth and I think you're right -- produces period.

At that god.

Who do you think that this could be around well I can -- this way Romney is not gonna do was well he's loses support among independents as is Barack Obama both of them and and that's and they both have to worry about.

I think Romney will win the questions by a margin we have a margin of wanting not anywhere near that fifteen maybe.

More likely ten I think the second vs Huntsman and here's -- that I think Paul has been following every day and I would not be surprised solutions -- -- And in -- would you put all on the top three.

I would and I did -- -- meeting friends today and I agree exactly with Karl Rove and that's good because.

To meet owes me lunch -- -- -- right at fancy lunch not just one at the don't cafeteria Donald's run -- okay I'll tell us I'm gonna enjoy your calm last week was that.

If Romney were to win in New Hampshire he would be the first Republican to -- -- Iowa New Hampshire for how long well.

Look they did this that no matter what happens the rules are broken we're making history nobody has ever in an open race for the presidency and Republican signed one New Hampshire and nobody has ever.

Command the third and forced and recovered nobody's gonna get you know as little as Perry's gonna get -- recover.

Nobody's gonna have failed to win one of the first two primaries like Paul and recovered so whatever happens some rule is going to be broken -- -- Other -- had a look at -- the fact that in New Hampshire you have.

Active five candidates normally you have two or three EF five candidates you're buying four and this makes -- very fortunate.

Romney's got these people breaking up the vote that's an anti Romney vote you would normally help that's that's a good point and that goes back to your question about margin if you take a look at the -- -- primary since 1988 the average margin for the winner in the Republican side has been third an average of just under 13%.

And so the question is I mean we got we don't we got we got -- suggestions here.

-- -- what I -- -- but right whatever and we've been talking about here is if if Romney wins but wins by twelve or thirteen let's see every day what.

Is that.

Make South Carolina that's deciding -- I don't know Florida this -- -- -- is this the deciding factors will be much further along the line each one of these things is gonna have the effect of it's gonna give somebody a chance to jump up on the stage.

And it's gonna win no.

One person out now they may still remain around for a while.

But they had their chances of winning this are affected you know normally in -- if Gingrich burden of five normally that pursue -- gather race right he has not getting -- race for two reasons one.

-- -- And he's got it up -- but secondly this is where -- perfection matter.

The influx of that of Italy and giving five million bucks -- what you gonna spend three million in South Carolina running this ad against Romney.

-- documenting his Romney -- still stays viable and frankly -- all these these.

Debates if you're going get a plane ticket.

You -- -- in this race for a -- -- but there's a third reason which is that the rules on the Republican side now -- the rules on the death threats on their proportional.

So if you get to so and so when the end of march rate and -- if you get 15% of the vote in Florida you get roughly 15% of the delegates.

You know what though everyone has money here with the exception -- -- Ron he's got money Paul's got money consequence -- got his own money.

Gingrich compared -- In that scenario does anyone drop out tomorrow what do you thing I don't know I don't think anybody drops out the one person is walking dead and it's you know they go on -- South Carolina if you take a look -- silicon devices did today.

Every one of these guys have got to buy even a guy that we think is without money meaning they got an ad they have ad buys in South Carolina and so how long how much money does it take to keep your staff.

And pay your travel bills for ten days.

And know that you've got money on television either directly as in the case Ron Paul and Romney.

Or in the case of -- -- of Gingrich and -- through through super where where this is gonna break out of an extra on more than one state one day and that's -- -- gets a little bit difficult when you get up some Super Tuesday which is not nearly what used to be.

But you've got to run multiple states that's for Romney who clearly have vanished the other thing is Perry -- all this talk about money Perry's out of money.

He has he's running his last ditch stand on there and if our Perry actors if -- -- and well except on what did you and I was like people.

Well look at that -- -- you're right yes to either do well or go home that's what I would look here's the other thing now you you're right about.

Florida -- becomes very expensive I mean your government and media markets eleven million voters.

And look these guys are -- -- more money than they need to be spending in South Carolina just I mean this is going to be.

Some -- -- stations you're gonna turn on 6 AM and turned off at midnight and all you will see in between is no program and the five.

And you'll see the five and commercials it wouldn't let me have my English is gonna spent three million bucks on the -- -- and my dad -- -- don't have a 32 grader to super pac is even -- and stations in North Carolina and Georgia hit.

-- -- -- We've got one very important question and that is that.

There's been questioned whether or not somebody could still get in the race and Greg thinks about this every night whether or not he should get in or not it goes on any toxic his pet iguana yes and captain sparkles whatever is -- -- that's my fair the fair and who didn't there's still time.

For Greg got out to get into this race and win as a write in candidates know Billick now it's all over there and -- area and is that.

Well yeah filed for Virginia can't file for all -- you can't file from Florida and answer directly.

I -- question for you -- called it evil genius what percentage is ideal like 45% evil fifty purse 55% genius that's actually.

Yes -- much he has much -- you can.

Evil evil as the Israeli -- that's you know the problem getting in February is not only do you not Yugoslav states you have to be able to get into a lot of states in two weeks and that's been very difficult I don't want to right before I -- I just -- -- be clear about this -- Yes of this icu -- use in -- white -- illegally again you're going to be here and went.

-- -- -- -- -- -- -- Is smaller better -- bigger -- claiming credit for the the original white -- have sent Rossiter I'm merely that are unwilling or have controlled the before you did is that I was just -- white board is racist.

Yes we need an initial caller board I would be much better Carla thanks for -- our very different in person -- -- I'm not that.

I hate it we know you're the first version a lot of this stable but he did -- you're doing about it and I waited until it does today.

And I are gonna have to go to the greatest allowed us -- -- that I.

Actually -- okay.

This guy wants to be president Obama's competition in 2012 is a Democrat.

He likes ponies and he wants everyone in the United States to brush your -- -- from Burma's supreme next.