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    White House chief of staff resigns

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Big win -- -- -- this week about two walloped the economy.

They -- a protection agency scoring a major victory is White House chief of staff bill Daley calls it quits.

He held back a lot of its regulations very and the economic damage they may do.

Now we're learning the EPA is slapping fines on companies.

Part not using a bio fuel that doesn't even exists should job creators worry Kyra what -- felt the sunny welcome to cash in hand.

Are passionate -- for this week we've got Wayne Rogers Jonathan Hoenig Tracy Byrnes and -- -- -- also joining us this week political commentator -- come.

So welcome to all of you and -- -- start with you on this question today they say this new EPA power grab -- -- short circuit any.

Job market recovery what's the connection way.

Well first of all this is not about whether that Green is good or bad and it's not about whether bio fields of good or bad it's about the arrogance of an agency -- getting something.

As you rightfully said the doesn't even exist.

The the absurdity of this the be the absolute.

-- -- -- Agencies in the federal government are so bloated with power and everything else I mentioned that they have dictating to to the private sector you've got to do this so we're gonna find you an excess of six million dollars them if you don't do this so whatever the number is that it's just outrageous.

Jonathan six point eight million dollars that these are finds that eleven in 2011.

-- particular for a -- feel that.

Doesn't even exist the companies could even -- And he'll get it -- But I think sure you got to remember -- greens is that they love animals but they hate people.

And that could.

-- that are hurting here.

I mean with the -- point exactly it is actually a -- unconscionable to pass regulations like that that people truly can't comply with.

And it shows the absolute -- is that apt to degenerate major.

Of the Green movement their goal is to punish industry to punish folks who want to use fossil fuels to power the economy to power their lives let's.

Sallyann -- so the EPA should be a little more cognizant of exactly what is regulations are doing and how they.

And force them or not because of the fact that you do have high unemployment right now well OK it's a personal -- Start out with some context before the Environmental Protection Agency.

Hundreds of thousands of children were dying -- premature to that -- -- bit premature deaths.

Hundreds of thousands more were dying were being affected by birth defects we had high rates of asthma -- mean all these things polluted water pollute.

And it's only do your lucky Zacks number one that's that's happened I thought I let debate now -- -- -- -- is whether or not.

It's how they implement rules nobody wants nothing like dirty -- we're not saying separately not so suddenly Cheryl let's be clear -- McClatchy news service -- -- poll of small business owners as to the problem is not regulations turning -- business lack of demand secondly.

Also to be clear.

These regulations create jobs -- creating innovation by demanding.

The companies find new estimates it will have heard it -- costing -- they may be costing sixty million dollars to the -- company.

To forty editing and good.

But they are yeah.

Yeah let me take it -- a noisy and him.

Regulation that makes cents and we're talking about try to -- children -- -- about regulation that makes sense Tracy.

Doing in a way where businesses not supper at the hands if indeed again I go back to a -- that's not even available.

But it finds six point eight million dollars -- demanded it be the first complaint regulation is the second Cheryl.

Finds that we're paying that we can therefore turn into employees' checks.

This is hurting small businesses left and right and look okay we needed it at a time we don't need it now.

We are they step that immediate gonna point out children are dying somewhere if in fact some company -- out -- still on them.

We would figure this out we don't need the government to do it we need the capital markets.

The -- corporate America to figure this out on its own not an agency that bloody wasted money -- and it felt -- mental energy companies are out to supply what Americans use which is.

Energy and electricity.

Fuel for our vehicles.

But do we need to -- -- reevaluate exactly how they are managed by the yet.

Absolutely I had no idea how I got -- dying children we're talking about say he'll hunt together at all but that's what happens you know what would you don't really have context -- -- -- bring about an emotional anecdotal arguments in that is kids are dying.

We're talking about sale us get -- know wood chips which grass -- house.

These things about -- degrade into hydrocarbons over millions of years where to look inside that can break these things down over just a few days.

That technology is not available right now we get EPA's focused on -- put this -- -- takes eight -- eight million gallons a year is what they want.

The Keystone Pipeline which is being pushed off by the EPA.

Will -- wait a minute 23 billion that yeah million.

Gallons a year of death that's either gonna go to China are become the United States got to put this thing got I've got -- real jobs.

Itself and keystone pipeline and that's different the bit don't want to totally got there but again it's that was about creating jobs immediately -- our own.

Energy in this country safely of course without harming the environment why -- we that would create -- -- -- -- let's not met -- first almost accused don't know what actually go abroad so let's let's -- -- -- -- secondly now.

We are talking about making energy -- safely and we're talking about incentivizing.

The private sector look otherwise we know how business works they'll say well will only invest -- that -- you read -- it's gonna cost less than the cost of a few lawsuits if we have some dead children.

I mean that's how yeah.

I -- We don't wanna use the way to go -- -- -- our protection agency which is what keeps our families and our community it's yeah.

Wow well let's not giant is about being accountable I mean it's about being accountable in doing what is right what is legal.

Now when I get it back again shows the depravity of the Green movement against which -- a part of that equates driving a car with.

With killing children I mean it's actually discuss state.

We'll talk about incentivizing.

Take a look at the Green incentives that government has already done modern.

Down the drain another eighty million to a company partially -- Biden GM of course which were all involved with.

Down the drain so all the real incentives are flushing money down the drain and selling that hurts taxpayers and that maybe it doesn't mean I think -- but the folks.

President yeah yeah.

The government doesn't think before it acts it's shoot first ask questions later so I'll have a -- -- and look what happened with -- and nobody did any due diligence on.

We keep the -- rules and regulations outdistanced her PR purposes.

These politicians -- we -- he weren't that we don't know why that we're doing it and not at the end of day -- costs businesses money and wait to be fair businesses do.

-- do things that are harmful to the environment and if cancer rates go up -- -- doing business they get sick that's what attorneys -- -- way.

Well this is I said before this is not about that Green movement it's not about children being killed.

It's not about that it's about the arrogance of a stupid agency did is bloated in out of control.

Promulgating.

Rules that cannot be complied right.

If everybody said it was good intent that's a wonderful with these people -- morons -- -- doing it.

You've got an -- full of people who don't know what they're doing.

Can you imagine that happening anyway -- let somebody said all you've got to do this whole -- well you can't comply.

Gee that's too bad we're gonna find you -- -- like how dumb can.

You know yeah.

You're exactly right about this this is not about the Green -- site a lot together and -- is really a game changer if that -- -- never been figured out but the problem is focusing on that and you look at jobs that actually can be created eBay needs to make -- is it safe is -- not say if you -- fracking is -- increased 200000 jobs.

Right away but don't try to help but they won't we'll all all it in the months ahead you don't make a ruling isn't save as and I think what you are killing the economy -- not making.

Ruling -- -- -- seconds but job creator if done the right way there anything can be a job creator but look we -- to give billions in subsidies to big oil.

They can pay the price of an incentive to create a better -- fuel that would create new jobs for an economy of the future great discussion -- -- -- we've got a lot more.

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