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And welcome to fox -- Sunday panel plus with Brit -- Kirsten Powers Bill Kristol and Juan Williams so we've been talking.
Which was a big subject today on the show about the super pacs and the role they -- plying.
And any do you have this interesting thing Brett in South Carolina where.
Newt Gingrich is telling the super -- supporting him.
Either correctly inaccuracies in the ads or.
Take them off the air and the silver Packers saying no they're playing this delaying game where -- basket bunch of very specific questions of Mitt Romney.
That they know we clearly isn't gonna answer and they say until he answers them they're gonna keep running the -- well if.
Newt Gingrich -- and Rick Tyler who has been a very very close associate of -- for a very long time.
Were actually in -- -- in touch about this whole strategy that would be a violation of the law certain law with us that's what would be.
I think Tyler's the fact that the -- and the documentary so called that is based on.
Is so dishonest and shiny and it came out pretty well in interviews and and it.
That Gingrich is worried.
That it will reflect badly on him and I think it does reflect -- on him.
And I think if tunnel trying to help -- probably take stupid things down but I guess he thinks is this clever way to help it.
Well let -- -- horror to be Machiavellian about it is is Newt Gingrich -- Hey take that -- down take that ad down knowing full well that -- -- or ignore it well thirty gets the best I wouldn't rule that out.
-- expect that -- just adding.
Can make -- of the whole question of super backs in the role they're applying and it is interesting to see Republicans complaining something of the super facts when I didn't hear any of them -- out.
The Supreme Court decision -- Citizens United which of course.
Did it -- this huge torrent of money.
Well this was the concern was Citizens United and an end that you would have people who are unaccountable what you would that the idea is you wanna have it if an attack is made you want the person who makes attacked have to.
Take responsibility for that and -- voters don't like it -- the candidate goes on really negative terror.
Well there's going to be some sort of price to be paid for that with the super -- there's no -- real price you -- for even though they're really being done on behalf of these candidates because.
You know Mitt Romney's political director runs his super pac ten.
So I think that I -- With the former.
The value and terms of good value to the debate.
And I mean if what if we're seeing it now.
And think what's gonna happen in the general election when you have huge amounts of money are independent money going to support the Republican candidate whoever -- -- and Barack Obama.
Yeah water of course the Democrats who screamed and yelled about Citizens United are going to more than take advantage -- -- -- while there's a super pac.
Is run by Bill Burton news of a former aide to President Obama they haven't raise as much money.
But as that's in the super pats on the right but I think that you're gonna see the same thing happening.
Bill -- how do you think that's all working out is that protects.
-- think it's the greatest thing that ever -- American democracy but.
You know we've learned from the efforts of that campaign finance regulation over decades now is trying to stop one thing at the end of trading in inadvertently.
Somebody else made his little worse than system -- Before I do think just an interesting question how much a super -- make a difference and it is a new park this election cycle.
Different schedule of primaries the -- politician delegates in the Republican primaries until April 1.
I've sort of been on this side assuming things will be very different this year plus -- party in 20101000 seems like a new moment in American politics of Barack Obama won the 2008.
I -- wrong.
I mean this may be and Carl let's say for example has been a little but on the other side of this debate Carl has been -- Karl Rove is sort of part had at least said.
Hey you know what it's not a presidential election of us the rules the -- still -- the guy who.
We've raised the most money and has the best organized campaign it was the first couple states guess what he's probably gonna win.
And -- may be right you know that this may be much more like -- traditional Republican primary election.
And -- -- that it is an interesting question I've sort of assumes that sent it in new environment plus these new rules would change things we'll see if it doesn't explode but you know you were saying -- -- -- the super -- have had such an impact I mean in Iowa.
Where I think you have cited that they have I think had a pretty big and participate -- one of things I assume we'll be sort of different this time that is the traditional argument is Mitt Romney has raised forty million dollars Rick santorum's raise two million happy to compete.
While with a bunch of millionaires decide to put up programs sent former anti Mitt Romney ads -- pro Gingrich as an anti Romney -- It can change the dynamic I've ever had assumed that the fund raising advantage will be less important -- stuff but.
But it had an enormous impact -- Iowa where Romney was able to run purely positive ads and his super -- just.
-- the skin off Newt Gingrich and ended up helping front runner in a sense which I I guess I dozens of -- and shake things up more and maybe they've just.
We doubled in the -- the advantage.
The front runner -- that's the point so I suppose there's there's any question about super -- which who have had that kind of -- and there's another argument which is that the super -- are gonna keep everybody in the race because you know Gingrich and Santorum -- the money is drying up but people are able because you know how much can Sheldon Adelson.
Casino mogul backing.
Newt Gingrich you can only contribute what 2500 dollars to the Gingrich campaign but he can distribute five million dollars to the super pac and that keeps Newt Gingrich and the same with the other candidates keeps them in the -- -- -- -- he'd give whatever you want it and we don't even have to know in many cases that edition looks at Sheldon Adelson so.
To me it's a little bit.
You know the rich dominate this whole process and you -- that point you have to think well what's going on here is this truly democratic but.
Korean Supreme Court it is because giving money is free speech and they should not have any -- put impeachment on their -- we speech right.
I think that there's something larger here at play given the realities of the playing field which is that.
Mitt Romney has been.
Really damaged by fellow Republicans in this effort I think the there was a pew study that came out this week that said that.
It was unbelievable I think two thirds of Americans think that income inequality is now the primary dividing point in American life not -- not anything else.
-- income inequality.
And this man Mitt Romney would be the richest man ever nominee be president United States.
And he's got this background and I think that the fact that it's being.
Targeted by fellow Republicans now is evidence of the problems as you were saying there's that are going to be in it's gonna be and I have bonanza for Democrats.
Just as quick final note from your -- while I might note that is upset one is about all the money I don't think that.
That the president and the Democrats -- -- acrimonious time Republicans will be very fortunate indeed they get -- -- Get anywhere near him -- Barack Obama backing -- right.
We're gonna have to leave it there thank you all panel and of course South Carolina by the time we see you next Sunday -- happen -- -- see the impact all of this has -- on -- -- -- -- with us throughout the week let us know what you think about the super -- in the race in South Carolina look for mine Monday edition of Wallace unplugged.
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