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Announced that we -- democratic congressman James -- Verney joins me now out of Columbia, South Carolina congressman good to have you back with us.
What do you make of this that is -- this Newt Gingrich surge what do you make of that.
I think it's very real.
I think it's been gone on since.
These debates at Myrtle Beach I think you put it himself very well in that debate.
And that I think that.
-- they -- -- -- a lot.
Because in that debate -- that did not improve himself very well and nothing going into the event.
He was -- here.
Among Republican voters on the that is.
And within 42000 after that debate I could feel a decided shift taken place.
You know congress you're very close out with the president very absolutely very tight with his people we know -- gardener in the landscaper but -- -- -- -- kind of -- Is it your sense congressmen that.
The president would prefer one candidate over the other to run again it's what.
Don't think so I think the president.
Has been preparing for.
A contrast -- visions.
For the future.
And if you looked at.
-- over the candidates on the other side they released this model for.
Similar visions and those who -- the country's ago.
And I think the president this -- himself.
His vision that best.
And I don't believe.
-- -- one of them.
Would be preferred of the.
The reason why -- -- inside the -- and I've done this before is that.
Many in the might have seemed to have hinted that Newt Gingrich would be an easier target.
On and a more vulnerable one of course they said that in the Carter administration about Ronald Reagan on we know we're not absolutely -- so.
History can always prove things wrong but what do you make of that that they they seem to see a bigger threat right now in -- round.
What I said -- today when I was done in Charleston the -- -- will be here horrible mistake.
-- in about that -- this election this November it is going to be that easy Pickens read about it.
I think both these candidates on different.
Are fundamentally flawed.
I don't agree.
There's my friend Herman -- and we interact a little bit -- it's also -- -- day.
He should not in these.
His tax returns the fact of matter is.
Is a time.
-- thing to do.
Started by his father up.
And I do believe that people feel.
That if you refuse to let them see how you manage your money.
And what you did with your money.
They can only assume that you -- something.
Now there are some things about out tax code.
That -- not bode well for people in public office even if it may be okay for people who ought.
And people are not going to vote for you.
If they fake.
That there's something on toward the about the way you've been penetrated your -- kind of off show.
And whether or not that you are being in Syria.
With your contributions.
So I think that would be a big mistake.
Not to do that on the other hand.
New judges -- got some problems that all of us are very familiar with magnetism.
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