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Another day another escalation in the growing standoff with Iran Iran today is denouncing European moves to embargo are running in a whale off.
The Australians the Nazis are joining that embargo I had the same time so it is growing each state attention is also increasing on the regime to stop its march.
Towards nuclear capability making the question of whether.
The Iran situation is truly.
At a boiling point this year former congresswoman Jane Harman is -- presidents.
The Woodrow Wilson Center she's serves a policy boards for secretary of state Hillary Clinton.
And secretary defense Leon Panetta and congresswoman nice -- back with that's in -- and Franklin -- What is the advice here where to go next.
Well I think -- -- escalating rhetoric from Iran is just proof that sanctions are biting.
-- really good news story in the last several weeks is that the European Union.
Oil imports and exports.
From Europe to -- run it's a very big deal.
It's also newsworthy event today.
President Obama added a couple more -- season -- very central to the Iranian economy to our sanctions list.
And that congress on a bipartisan basis yes it was bipartisan.
Past a very tough sanctions resolution is part of the defense authorization bill.
Which was signed into -- so all of this means.
That the noose is tightening around the Iranian government -- goal of that is not to hurt the Iranian people who are friends.
But is to get that government to abandon its policy or it's.
Potential policy to develop nuclear weapons and I think the sanctions are biting and it.
Seeing the reaction from -- shows that they are and that says to me two things number one keep it going and number -- keep the military option on the table.
-- -- the -- people are friends and I'm curious what you think the nature of our relationship should be with Iran.
As we look into the future not just looking over the next year but let's say we -- ten years out let's say -- sanctions do work they've stopped pursuing nuclear weapons.
What kept her relationship do we really want with a run.
Well -- -- per -- was one of the great ancient societies we've had relations with Iran over many years.
I was working in the Carter White House -- I just laughed when.
The -- Fallon there was you know island complete regime change which has been.
A very very tough problem for us over the years.
But I can certainly imagine.
That -- that find a way even with this government in place if they and -- abandon their nuclear ambitions and allow for full inspections.
Find a way to work with them and to build a relationship with.
One of the most interesting -- populations on the planet then restore the relationships we have there's a huge a rainy an American.
Population in the United States I represented a part of Los Angeles that was called terror Angeles.
Because there are 750000.
-- 800000 Iranians living there.
It's the largest population outside of Iran so.
I would certainly hope.
And indeed even now and I believe this is true our message is getting through to the Iranian people many of whom -- -- the unfair election a few years ago.
That America Americans.
Are their friends -- Obama says this repeatedly.
But we are absolutely against -- not just sweep of the European Union many Arab states.
And increasingly Russia which has been speaking out against this their pursuit of that by their potential pursuit of nuclear weapons when.
I regret I have been feeling kind and that's something we have to work I apologize for interrupting -- -- has been speaking out against.
The sanctions in general though and also we hear reports that Russia is it best selling.
Weapons to Syria still so the relationship with Russia and Iran is still the one with a lot of question marks awesome with -- -- as we as we listen entertain different have a FedEx and that's where we are right now.
So we talked up an -- of the sanctions working in our feature with -- what about the sanctions not working.
What about and that that situation if we go through the next six months when they're really supposed to take a fact and they don't deter Iran.
Well with that as I've said I am for keeping -- military option on the table.
I think there have to be red lines I think we have them I don't think that's something we're gonna discuss on this show.
But I think we have to keep working on Russia you are right it gets transferred technology to Iran over the years.
But it is at least making some constructive noises China uses Iran is a gas station.
But the fact is.
That the world is producing a lot of oil outside of Iran and there is a way to.
Target these sanctions so that a -- pays the penalty.
And the other -- and and and consumers at the pump may -- pay slightly more but don't let's understand that there is now oil.
Coming out of that Libya and coming out of Iraq.
And the and the saudis are liberalizing their supplies so week he and survive.
And we should survive while depriving Iran of any benefits from its oil production unless and until it abandons its nuclear -- potential nuclear ambitions congresswoman -- nice -- back with this again thank you thank you -- so he.
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