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-- -- we got our Ron shake joining us right now Ron is the founder up today.
And double -- might not abdicate.
Apple are taking over our United States budget process he does have a lot of ideas -- -- Congress and the president to work together and -- Some of this country's more vexing problems.
And keep in mind this is a guy whose profits soared in the middle of that'll Atkins Diet nonsense.
Which really worried me when that Atkinson was taking off.
On the but anyway -- very good to have you thanks -- coming.
Good to see you -- hey -- I'm with you we need innovation.
We need those kinds of folks that that come from where we come from that -- prepared to innovate and come up with new solutions to the way we approach these problems that's what you're saying with apple.
And by the way they could charge more for product of people gladly pay it's debatable at this point whether the government to charge more for its product.
And expect anyone to happily pay leaving that out of it Ron you say the time it's come to stop the posturing on both sides six point.
Oh absolutely I mean it's it's it's very simple we -- we continually.
Talk about what policy changes are needed.
The reality is that policies coming go the problem is the structural problems that exist.
If we're not prepared and we're not able to reach agreement on the core problems nothing moves forward.
And we have lived in an environment in which our politicians our political leaders continue to blame each other.
The reality is is a business person.
We're accountable we have to reach agreement we have to get to an end we have to deliver and the truth is our congress our president they haven't done it.
And we need to hold them accountable to what I've been part of a group called no labels we've been around about a year.
And where you got a twelve step program to fix congress very simply you said earlier when you're talking to senator Lieberman.
No budget no pay let's demand from our political leaders what they are being paid to do which is deliver -- Not a bad idea at all weddings I also liked is that you should give a president any president Democrat -- Republican.
That the dignity of an up or down vote on any of his picks for anti -- -- you would avoid this whole fiasco that happened with the -- recess appointments.
You also say that in a State of the Union Address something -- signed it -- -- and I advocated this earlier today.
So like parliament requested tied for the president and -- erupt the president nor did get a debate going within the well balanced by the way that's never gonna happen -- but go ahead tell us why you think that's a revenue.
-- well I just wanted to say something to you know we often blame the politicians the people we should be blaming his ourselves.
You know the reality is you're right out of the country oh yes I talk to managers that are that are working for a living every day -- -- what I hear.
Are -- -- we've got we wait -- 80% of American agrees on the problems debt reduction.
And in in in and end on education.
And the reality is that we also understand the solution it's it's essentially Simpson -- its two thirds.
It's 13 tax revenue let's get on with it and solve these problems and let's move away from a world.
We're all we do is beat up on the other side and believe we're scoring points and that it doesn't work we got the future of our children mistake let's move on.
The governor announced Todd you know a lot of capital a private guys like you.
Who would love -- and -- given the chance do a lot better spending so if this keeps up the way it's going what do you think happened.
What we live in a world of uncertainty.
I mean the reality is we as business people.
Cannot move forward in this kind of environment and the challenges we've got to demand of our political leaders to solve it.
No solution is not a solution blaming the other side is not a solution.
This doesn't work the way we're going.
And we are going to leave our children in a much worse place and we are not going to be able to compete in the international marketplaces if we don't get our act together.
That is very well put run check thank you very much good seeing you again be well think and --
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