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Growing violence in 'Occupy Oakland' sets up a debate on whether or not the movement has lost control of it's message
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Fact -- I did tonight as you may know we predicted the demise of the Occupy Wall Street movement last November 16.
I did that because of the growing violence and crime surrounding the protests I was alienating many Americans including me.
Now the occupiers are down to the hard core and on Saturday they unleashed in Oakland California.
Check gas has multiple crimes all day today and -- you're doing -- marching.
Would be doing -- even -- since.
Go home.
What justifies -- seeing a historic beloved building that's a symbol of Oakland's.
Resilience and history.
You're.
Now Oakland very liberal town very -- -- that -- is off the chart left they've all.
-- begins.
The -- Movement because of the spectacle.
And there -- hundreds arrested at 400 arrested few injuries known as serious as we know.
There are some watches fox is I was very -- have a long way to so it's all over one it's a.
-- that on the whole -- Romano and left you have democratic mayors thrown about and what those young people and hope we're doing is I guess it's -- you know you have a lot of people there you know veterans people who are unemployed that.
That whole thing should not be confused with the bigger idea bill two thirds of the American people left and right.
Don't like bailouts for the banks don't like bailouts for Wall Street think that what's been going on in terms of the economic system the tax system favors the wealthy.
That's occupy wall -- -- like yeah.
Telling me -- you -- a look you're telling -- that Randy is not rule you tell -- the that's OK so guess what Occupy Wall Street right now is more popular in America than -- -- is it.
Going to the polls say it is not absolutely not we disagree that I don't wanna tell you something the G-8 -- Chicago and a few months I think you may.
Then you're gonna have the political conventions in the summer and you're gonna see anything I'm gonna -- -- as much trouble as possible and Americans are gonna.
Any problems in -- street.
No violence none of this stuff okay that's costing the taxpayers millions of dollars and the Tea Party is -- is well positioned to rise.
These people are done.
Do what you said Mary Katherine would use all of that.
I think that if -- I -- Wall Street movement has not its brand has not been obliterated partly because the media gives it half a -- lighting off some of the highlights.
Right size -- I don't think it would -- making the same excuses for Tea Party -- are letting that -- about because I think your movement does have to be connected to some of the bad things that happen.
At your parents and there have been a lot of bad things that have an open is of course.
I think one of the more tumultuous places where it happened once you've got liberal -- standing in front of the vandalism at a liberal town -- saying hey this is an issue or it got -- DC and I'm not thinking about in -- the main storyline occupy it has been the rat infestation for a couple weeks now once you're there I think the PR battle has been lost but here's the thing.
President Obama they were his punitive popular news.
News hoped for bringing out the class warfare rhetoric he likes to talk about so the idea -- live on in him and they had like a message victory there I think the president wanted to go there -- well.
Very early on -- -- you have -- right here in America and the Democrats since November last sleep well last week winehouse.
Stated they.
He's added that he sent a message but he didn't say the crew he's not out -- -- man with.
-- you you're not hearing that I'm hearing a lot easier yeah actually I.
-- a message.
These different is living the right if you're talking about people who honestly and I -- -- people who abatements unemployed people that mental issues people who have rats swimming around all right -- -- -- like nobody likes them -- the democratic -- that was the.
Ramadan.
-- laugh -- you had all heard a message they lost control of the message the brand is that these are destructive people.
That are hurting all other Americans and taking money out of the treasuries of places like Oakland.
To bankrupt anyway are causing trouble well the messages that message if you -- -- believe America's -- oppressive country because wealthy people to arguing well then good you.
We -- that method would denounce these old and I both that you're talking about on the street but the message is something has to be done to protect the American middle class and make sure that if you want to make it hasn't hasn't given democratic.
His party not the Occupy Wall Street movement the democratic party's run and on that.
Both for us and will give you what we can give you and take those were money from the rich guys that's their message.
Well that's -- -- I think you know what not that's -- added but I.
I don't -- -- I didn't Obama has has taken some of the Occupy Wall Street message which is what Mary -- -- -- and I think the idea.
In the polls stabilize.
My left leg got -- I think the last guy out.
-- America there's there's the question with a movement like this does it become an electoral force does it become something that -- organizing get things done some of these kids have been consumed and other liberal social justice groups no doubt there's a -- like the brand has been partially hurt I think the message has been partially hurt.
By these groups because frankly why do you want to embrace the tent cities but Barack Obama has decided to do that and I do think ones right there's there's a kernel of this but Americans respond to but these folks have really stepped dollar got a good.
They -- it they had it going for a little while and now you can't defend.
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