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Politics and Troy.
Joining us now it makes Chicago politics like Disneyland.
Frankly the judge James Franco is the editor and columnist for that -- record.
James thank you for joining us -- as you know we've been covering absentee ballot fraud case there trauma of going on.
Eight Democrats had been indicted for -- guilty.
Two on trial now.
What -- they had they.
They admitted some of them admitted that they -- -- balance James welcome -- you know what happened.
They're going through -- testifying saying that they did not sign yet these ballot applications -- -- ballots.
Defense is putting up -- spirited defense that is as expected and are trying to throw a bunch of prosecutorial misconduct.
-- he called the issue a little that.
Resistant to standard practice in an -- you know you know Anthony to figure Leo and Anthony Tony difficulty -- -- Our two political operatives democratic committeeman.
And you know to think Leo let we have -- is -- -- history that two bit.
His police statement to the police.
When they're investigating this was quote.
This is an ongoing scheme and it occurs on both sides of the job the people are targeted -- -- low income housing.
And there was a sense that they are a lot less likely to ask any questions what appears as a huge conspiracy to nonpolitical persons is really a normal.
Fraud and voter fraud in the normal political tactic in elections.
That debate regulation of minor minor party -- has been a standard practice -- accounting for for about rapper.
I would not put a -- people to have forged absentee ballots and applications in the past this is the first time that anybody has ever been.
Charged with a crime for a -- actually the second time we have to understand the North Korean bush a couple of years ago of autographs for the Republican chairman in North Korean bush.
-- absentee ballots also.
Well that's an interesting point how does this come out -- via my whistle -- by people on the inside of suspect wrongdoing an outcome like prosecutors.
For the election board and discovered this alleged fraud in the -- that has already been pled guilty to.
Well ironically wanna be election commissioners is on trial for -- absentee ballot if there's nothing absentee ballots so it -- -- inside.
That -- institutions so to speak that is supposed to monitor these types of things.
Your time and -- and -- Donnelly is that the elections commission of the democratic elections commissioner of Rensselaer county.
Was on trial right now he's -- assuming sitting at the defense table in -- in the courthouse in Troy.
And he's still the elections commissioner.
I guess at your innocent before proven guilty of course I think even just almost got -- -- when I said that I didn't -- -- -- him to another four year term after the scandal broke.
Why what was he charged or just -- just when the scandal broke.
-- this is.
Shortly before he was charged.
Okay so they reappointed him is this is -- do you think there's a culture of corruption.
In dealing with politics when I mean.
It's just an astounding story that they.
Are charged with these absentee ballot forgeries we talk to voters since I -- than there.
Ballot applications they say they didn't sign to voters had the excuses that were written going to casino by bus.
You know that the story as they allegedly sent a room I guess just made up this stuff.
Yes they got there then.
One actually went to a screen printing convention in Syracuse which there was no such thing.
Those are some of the excuses what what does this say about the way politics is handled and out what do you fear.
This could mean for communities around the country where this stuff is not detective.
-- Well there has to be better control of -- one -- -- and we in New York State anyways one of the major flaws -- election law is that they allow minor parties to cross endorsed major party candidates.
And -- to win minor party line in the city of -- it's.
To be on the ballot on that line the only need a handful of votes.
But when you come Election Day don't -- party lines can definitely swing an election -- wherever -- they constitute about 50% of the vote.
And -- in this case 2009 it was who did the Democrats allegedly trying to get the working families party lines of the run together.
Okay and to think Leo what pops out not to think clearly says it happens on both sides of doubt you think that's the case.
-- -- that's absolutely database that's been manipulated -- party -- sport forever -- they've they've done it the Republicans at least in past years have done it legally they pushed the envelope.
But they haven't crossed the line and -- legality.
Obviously forging signatures and -- excuses it is illegal and duplicate setting people have been indicted for a pled guilty.
Two are on trial our two are awaiting trial.
And James final word you know what I have a house with the voters and try taken us.
Well what do the Democrats over the City Council by -- seven to two margin and the Democrats elected on the -- so.
The Democrats pretty much what the city even -- eight of their own party members have.
Are under indictment or have pled guilty.
By James good to say thank you -- each other person.
When about I'm fine thanks so much -- --
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