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And -- you have a new film out a tale of two missions and I didn't realize you're a filmmaker.
Well this is an effort -- you have done documentaries in the -- -- -- problem.
Document racial -- on the tries to.
Documentaries about eight Philip Randolph area Anderson but I haven't done -- recently but -- one.
I got involved with because a man about it Kyle Olson who's an educational reformer.
And I am strong in terms of the school -- the issue.
And I think many people -- -- Allen ever surprise if someone.
Who left -- -- would be involved with school choice but I I'm just so outraged by what's going on in the big city school.
You really go after unions -- thinking actually call -- radical I think in Chicago correct on this.
Yeah well you know I mean it's not me a lot of -- in this situation Rahm Emanuel -- who was the former chief of staff to President Obama.
Is currently the mayor of Chicago and he is going and after.
The unions because he's trying to for example -- -- that time of the school pays the rent in the school year to improve the quality.
Of education in this city of Chicago for -- -- -- and the union which just.
-- put -- -- stopping him even though he was offering to pay the teachers more money.
I you generally not in favor of unions for teachers -- is -- this particular.
And and is it because of what's going on particularly at Chicago that you feel the need to be some change.
-- hi I'm Michael biggest school reforms so I mean it's good to meet the only problem with the unions -- That the teachers unions have become an impediment to school reform that they are defenders of the status quo.
In fact the name of the film -- two missions because one mission is.
Who were after a good education.
-- -- Teachers and unions and administrators and bureaucrats.
Who are about.
Union contract deals with politicians and everything but education and those two missions are in direct conflict.
You feature a particular school and noble street college prep charter school what's so special about.
Graduation rates so those kids are going on college military but they're on the path -- success they got there.
Or first put on the first letter of upward mobility in this country.
And obviously that's what education is about but when you look at.
The rest of the Chicago public school but not chartered.
-- you're down around 70% graduation rate if you're talking just about the minority development you're down under 50% graduation rate and you understand the depth of the crisis -- talk.
Why is a school able to make it work.
Well I mean I'm not a pro here but what I observed was.
But clearly they don't have a lot of the limitations.
That are imposed by union rules on the rest of the school systems so.
You get -- situation where teachers who are not able to do a good job.
-- -- -- -- -- -- Or you get a situation where -- school they have longer or you get a situation where.
Innovation in terms of the use of technology and the rest is welcomed by people who were trying to get a -- On what the kids need educational needs are and how you can meet them effectively there's no limit in terms of saying let's try -- -- heading on fix what's happening in the public school system.
Well I mean first call immediately -- noble street does not limit who it expects its a matter of a lottery to get in the -- But once you're in your hands so they have the company population of the population in the rest of the schools so what you -- -- -- what about fixing the rest of the schools.
What I think and I think what Rahm Emanuel the mayor to -- -- thing.
Let's look to innovation lets look at teacher accountability let's look that keeping -- kids in school a longer -- if necessary in order to get the job done.
British people see this film with -- Well you can just click on line and -- in two missions.
That's too -- and my -- ION and movies that kind of.
Well we have you and I ordered to argument this is well is I thought you did a superb job -- Newt Gingrich and also particularly admired.
Which you wrote about racial code words.
And after the fact and I -- if you're still getting the getting pushed back on this from anybody.
And are you.
You know that what's your take on.
Well I'm -- you have to question you know aren't very sensitive questions you because it's been an.
You know one of these things we're I feel like I did my job and I think that if a legitimate question a question they needed to be enhanced.
And I wasn't there to win a debate obviously I got hooted down and booed and game which was making -- of my name and all.
They said -- like he was something he just stepped in her -- Yeah exactly you know way out people -- you know -- by the way.
I can't think -- it I think it may be something you know Alan.
Given that you also worked at -- -- so -- the debate is over people are coming over Ole mister Williams can we get a photograph -- you can we do Carter you know it'll look like.
But click only a terrific.
But in the moment and especially for the TV audience what they thought was Gingrich giving a standing ovation and it seemingly putting me down to lot of people.
Then have bit off of that with critical why did I bring up the race issue what you know that's I think where this man brought up -- when he it was.
On the campaign -- and he's saying.
If he's elected president and he speaks the NAACP.
You've got to -- these people not to demand from -- but to demand jobs.
How could you not take that -- -- racial -- obviously he thinks it blacks -- some kind of parasites who were demanding in marching for more food stamps.
And that he's the one -- says.
You know what it's a good idea because of the lack of good work ethic -- the black community to have black kids working as janitors in the schools.
And then after the debate even a couple of days later he says something else nasty about you -- if you didn't understand what work was.
This is the most bizarre thing because again Alan you know I have written a book called enough.
And it was a book that was largely framed by built -- -- -- experience but in in MacBook I'd make the case.
They you know what we know what works in terms of developing.
Our success in this country.
For minorities and that includes not only.
Graduating from school.
But staying in the work -- even if you start with the lowest level jobs.
And so it's not like Newt Gingrich is introducing this idea tell me.
Or to other minorities and at that point it's pronounced patronizing condescending it's ground offensive -- -- be lift -- at the debates.
But this is like somebody -- I don't think speaking to you -- terms I think he's using code language to appeal to people.
Who want to imagine that the minority but the problem with the minority -- living off the society.
And not acknowledged the awful reality.
Public 25% poverty rate for black community -- close to that in the Hispanic -- not acknowledged.
Up 15% unemployment rate in the black community 11% Hispanic community not acknowledged that we're now in the 40%.
In terms of unemployment.
For young black people in this country.
So it can't support hypocrite is this guy being serious if he actually engaging in debate or he just about throwing red meat.
Well certainly weren't from South Carolina that's -- sad part.
Well EPA but that's why they.
For all -- kind.
Venom that's been directed at me and I've had some support coming you know some people and -- feel that from -- you know -- you know what you did you jobs yeah.
You know what he got what he wanted out of it.
Did he say anything to you after the debate.
Know what insisting you know thinking has written a book.
Or coauthored a book about eighty it's a fictional book about the civil war in which there is a black protagonist.
And so in the court that the debate before our incident happened.
He can't or is that what have you read my book it is talking to me about it -- sent -- -- copy of the book after the debate after the whole incident happened.
We were in the same area.
And twice he avoided -- Can't -- you -- -- to exempt.
And -- he's of the -- fans they come up do you want your autograph and they can avoid Putin's well.
Not don't have what I -- saying -- even in South Carolina we're there was all the other that the -- happen ultimately it was the most memorable moment of that debate.
People were you know very.
Kind in the terms being back forward wanting an autograph or did it take pictures right there on the debate and afterwards you know.
Hoping it happens you aren't facing the presidential.
Not that the primary presidential candidates and sure enough.
And things are being taken off with a microphone.
But -- people all the rest.
I certainly hear all the bubbly in the weight behind me article what's perfect turn around and probably people just waiting for -- yeah.
Words as so happy to -- to once again one that -- your film is.
Available if you go to blue a web -- Google -- two missions put that in the in the search engine tale of two missions.
The -- and Juan Williams and Kyle Wilson thanks -- -- Willis 91 I appreciate very much.
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