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Is the Obama administration at war with Catholics?

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    Outrage over new birth control mandate

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-- back to the five so last week the administration and realize that it had stirred up a hornet's nest.

When it comes to religious liberty.

And a question of whether or not religious organizations.

Would be carved out of Obama -- mandate at providing free contraceptives which includes.

Tucson on them like the morning after pill which.

Can go against your pro life beliefs and so this is go out for a couple of weeks the columnist EJ -- usually a big defender of President Obama.

Went against is if you've lost him -- -- wells have you lost.

But interestingly Erica I'm allergic to tell us a little bit about what you heard because I have from several people who attended Catholic mass yesterday on Sunday.

Who heard from the pulpit the priest reading letter from the archbishop saying that they are going to fight the administration on this strong.

If I may first look at the instability is run not in the USA today short piece but you can't put a spin on it and it honestly the -- -- Catholic bishops have a completely different take on.

On the ruling it -- of one of the letters read to.

To -- -- hurt -- with two to one of the parishes Friday December January 20 2012 will certainly stand as a moment of enormous Perreault.

For religious liberty on that day the Obama administration -- regulations that would require Catholic institutions offer insurance programs providing.

Services and it and it goes on to say that.

Very very detrimental to the Catholic practice and they're very much against it no matter what CBO -- in.

Well and a lot of the client is on -- it's gonna -- first -- that the the broader point that they're trying to make here is it's not that there's a debate about whether contraception.

Could or should be used as a lot of women -- -- the question is one of religious liberty in the constitution.

Right exactly I still get kick it over why this is an argument given the inexpensive nature of contraception.

Ed what's a billion sad is that the contraception rules.

Are this ruling respects religion.

By using that logic the church providing abortions would be even more respectful.

In my right.

I'm not sure half -- He and caddie says action agenda here -- an element of but what Sean has shed -- doesn't make sense to me like I said earlier they won't -- rule would -- -- -- shipment carved after the policy.

Religious our -- that primarily employed people of their own fate.

This exemption includes churches and other houses of worship and can also include other church really affiliated organizations now.

I mean that's CNN and a number -- don't give that about -- they don't even give that exemption.

But -- front try hard to understand years -- since.

Overwhelming percentage of Catholic women use birth control.

Or have in their course there their lives.

What is wrong with having it available they don't have -- they don't and here's the.

Here's what's -- -- -- -- is that.

It's the question is whether -- -- the church is required.

To provide it for free and -- that goes against -- religious beliefs then who cares.

That he'll also be find if you don't do it so it's actually a first and -- it -- -- From a people perspective yeah that's why people are saying it violates their freedom of religion and be able to you know exercise their religion if they don't want to provided and then they're going to be -- in penalized if in fact they down.

I mean this is why this can go all the way up to the US Supreme Court and thank you Obama administration -- Kathleen for unifying.

They Catholic Church but the -- lankans -- accent I think they're the very strong honest Bob I think because of her -- on the other -- means unifying EJ -- and and -- -- I did tonight at I think -- definitely mistreating in this because there are seven is that -- -- Catholics in the in the country and using city's -- others are upset about this.

-- -- -- And while I would say 90% however have a poll Bob I'm -- of feeling I had -- -- agenda might that have yet to announce civil unrest regarding this ruling which is not necessarily about -- that the use of contraception that's not the question.

The question -- does the federal government and the Obama administration have the right to violate.

The free speech laws and let the Catholics right now you put any other scenario in here say something about the Jewish religion or are Muslims and that there would be a bigger -- -- -- -- They're gonna tell you got it got it.

Three army my.

It does run big headline can't even support Greg you have no choice but that's glad about that always got to force them to require -- rates in lukewarm it's Mumbai and you don't have to have -- live there and you're not forced to take birth can draw the -- -- saying leases office -- title our rule respects religion.

Well according to the -- I see it right -- -- it doesn't.

But what can -- and I'm -- -- that our balance mean.

This -- how balanced the way units on the day that the Obama is -- didn't write that headline I love this might look like I really like that process today is insane hour rule.

The yet let's listen to several churches is is Kathy says some influence and it and enjoying themselves out of pretty debate -- last decade with problems -- -- -- -- It priests.

Among other things.

-- firewire you Atlanta got this that's it that's -- -- always in the whole wave the whole message that the death house Democrats.

Got obamacare passed in first place is because it got former congressman Bart Stupak to -- to agree to the baloney executive order that was signed that said.

Under this ruling there would be no and compelling.

Contraceptive use well there's three years later that's what's -- and that's what I'm saying about this.

-- -- -- really am I'm not maybe I'm being -- I don't really.

And I understand what is compelling.

Nobody is compelled to use these things.

It's not it's not about you requirements it's about Preval is about provision they have got a -- -- -- to set a whole -- in front -- you you don't happy eat it.

Right but not but if I'm compelled to have to give it to you -- are under a penalty of having to pay a fine if I don't.

That does not product that's where you -- somebody.

From from my train trip up here and it's in which was -- difficult conversation but.

To -- but I darts of -- -- university administration they have an insurance policy that includes.

-- -- of use if you wanna use it now that's -- university why is that different from the.

Let me just -- an -- because they're gonna be required to -- they do though I mean they and then there's the I think I -- school I hear some possible I usually don't I cannot be asked to think that's especially if they can elect to do it which is very different from being compelled to in fact carry it and provided for free are there -- -- there -- other and it hasn't been an insurance follows through to compelled to carry.

The conscience -- is different because it crosses a line of religious liberty I don't know about other things in terms of mental health and medicine or something like that.

This is a question of religious liberty and that is why it is not only at Catholic think shut everybody -- -- pro life -- pro choice should be concerned about this government overreach I also predict that they will cave.

I think the Obama administration -- realized that they have backed off and taken Joseph Biden's advice at the beginning which was not to do this don't do it and you know what's -- -- -- at the act now that the polls I think.

As voted there right at him and -- And that other news to get to there's a father who is -- suspected in the death of his wife he blew himself up and has two children in an explosion yesterday now people.

Are wondering if enough was done to protect the two young -- time.

We'll discuss that when.

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