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This is what we're getting now costly invasive pat downs but lawmakers passing new legislation that might change all that.
And allows private companies to take over airport security will keep us safer and save -- money.
Everybody and -- the Sony want to cash NN.
-- cast and crew this -- we have Wayne Rogers Jonathan Hoenig Tracy Byrnes and John mayfield also joining us.
Economic Policy Institute Christian Dorsey so welcome all of you anti I'm gonna start with you -- letting private companies.
Take over airport security save us money and make a statement.
Share of the TSA is made travel less safe less efficient and way more expensive and published reports put their failure rates at 70%.
In terms -- all I don't know catching that denies the guns the weapons at this -- the lead at that thing.
And of course they spent massive amounts of money 1220 million for example and the hope oppresses them supposedly to detect explosive doesn't work and we as taxpayers pay for at all two dollars and fifty cents per leg surcharge for every time he you get a plane it's gonna rise to fifteen.
And published reports say that private companies could do much less expensive much more effectively of course that's how we should be going.
Wayne do you agree with that that it would be better for the tax Payer.
If we let more -- this privatized privatization happen across the airports well.
This is necessarily question of safety and not for example we have of -- we privatize some prisons in this country and and safety was never a question so I don't think it's question of safety and they ought to put it out for bid yes.
And let it let private companies build on and I don't think they can do it's Callista have states involved in it as opposed having the federal government of the federal government can't do anything right so we all know that.
Having -- -- excuse me do you think that we have seen over the last ten years and and we we do -- -- in nation most likely as a do you think that at this point that we should let.
Private companies come -- No of course not we had private security at our nation's airports up prior to September 11 and we see what happened there -- so to argue the private.
Other companies are gonna do a better job -- -- and then the other issue is cost effectiveness.
We have pilot programs in place.
Across about nineteen airports in this country right now and it cost on average three to nine dollars more.
To what have private security screeners.
Very public ones so if it's not cheaper and it's not safer why in the world you do it.
Traits that and say they want to hearken back tonight eleven which is crazy every part of the reason -- -- -- Governmental agencies -- and talk to each other and didn't have any idea that there -- terrorist boarding the plane so whose fault is that there.
Look if you take this Friday you will allow them to basically did not highest bidder wins airports will be out -- bragging about how they have -- for security than others.
All that is as good for the economy over problem but -- like but the point being here that.
That there are several airports across the country that already have privatized security San Francisco is one of those airports you're a frequent traveling -- airports every week what do you say.
I've got over five million miles you let an American Airlines Lozano a little -- -- about airline security.
What I don't like go through it every single week what prison is talking about 336000.
People signed up -- these nineteen pilot programs.
This is gonna expedite the system but what does this is private are -- his government I agree on the -- completely.
This need to be open to bids and there is absolutely no reason that taxpayer should -- for this.
I just played 983.
Dollars you get down here to Dallas for Bermuda charge me an extra ten bucks each leg I don't care I should -- the security problems that I am causing the country.
Not the taxpayers now -- private no -- government it should be funded somewhere about eight people instead of the taxpayers.
Outweighed and we hit the argument here that -- -- a competitive bidding and that is what John is talking about competitive bidding for these contracts.
That would -- a -- -- market out there and that would actually help.
They have the taxpayer get off the hook basically for what they're spending now at the TS -- well.
Well I said that yes -- put -- -- for competitive bid it should be like everything every kind of contract like that with the way everywhere there's a government agency involvement.
But the thing is in them and Christian all due respect.
That we have privatize some prisons in this country and it has been successful and it has been done at a cheaper price so I don't you can argue with that.
So I'm so thrilled to be -- so should we privatize the FBI should be privatized the CIA you know this is a matter of national security not only securing.
Our national assets like our airspace but our national treasures like our people I don't like I did that out I think I think whose sole motivation is profit.
But what used to play and do good -- trying to do a better job because their motivation what's wrong what do you what it what is the evidence that they're gonna do.
-- -- Wish the but the point Christian if you go back to pre 9/11 the airlines were as responsible for airline security and -- -- Bragman and that's what people are afraid of and that's understandable figure out there.
Thank you have a just second alright guys yeah.
Let's go to the evidence the evidence is that the TSA which Christians -- point was supposed to make us more safe.
Is it doing it -- 70%.
A failure rate in my book is not successful at preventing anything.
What's so disheartening is that you're talking about the success of keeping us safe meanwhile word or shaken down -- run the video -- getting patted down.
Meanwhile the real -- AKA militant Islam grows stronger not only in Iran but worldwide.
That's the -- I want the -- the the military the FBI those actual.
Proper roles of government to be addressed -- Let me ask you this I mean do you feel safer than you did ten years ago as a frequent air traveler right now.
Yes I do feel -- I don't care rather they don't my shoes I don't care about the bodies are.
But connected to the airport screener I don't care I don't wanna read -- -- any more than nice guy.
But I want to know the guy next to me whether he -- white brown black any race color our religion.
Is being -- and strained.
And the problem we have is because this is not a competitive -- we don't have the best security and the taxpayers funny why don't we have bomb sniffing dogs why don't we don't have bomb detection machines were all baggage charge the airline passengers to them is that the taxpayers but we can never get that done as long as -- the government agency Ariza Walton is not open to bids with competing companies.
Jonathan I don't think your group.
Well I don't share -- -- that what I fear is an environment where let's -- god forbid it terrorist militant Islam blows up a movie theater -- -- we have to have you know yes they had to have a movie here we have this growing government.
Is that it actually addressing the prop of the problem I don't think that Homeland Security.
If John wants to fly and they can go for at.
I think that our enemies are just gonna find another way to -- That's a great job on -- that -- little -- and then usually.
The -- you do not have a legal -- supplied is not life liberty and the pursuit of air travel I do have a legal right to be safe and -- -- -- this comes what's the -- -- so be it.
Don't why did a good car with the -- -- -- and drive.
But Wayne what about the -- not read what I've -- brought -- -- when Rodgers and that is the issue of technology technology we are far more advanced.
Then we were back in 2002001.
Should not be considered in this debate well of course it should be but but it's it's already part of it is gonna continue to be part -- gonna continue to upgrade that more important than that is I want to see everybody on the show naked though because I.
That's the idea yet if they've got to fly naked I wanna see this with flying naked I'd say what the ratings -- and then -- -- I think that story.
Well I think we haven't had not needed -- right now quite frankly and I think the technology angle is -- really important one too because private companies are coming up with amazing technology to make this system.
Simpler and quicker and -- -- because of bureaucratic nonsense they can't get into the TSA so why not -- out there and give us the best.
Quickest possible way to get on these plane safely all right guys great discussion.
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