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Jamie Iran you know as -- very prominent issue in this Republican race with completely contrasting views.
On one hand -- got Ron Paul who says Iran does not threaten American security.
And he calls claims that Iran is pursuing a nuclear weapon quote war propaganda.
It on the other hand Rick Santorum has praised the assassinations.
Of -- -- nuclear scientist he calls -- a quote wonderful thing.
Mitt Romney says -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad should be indicted.
This is Ahmadinejad claims you'll make a big announcement about Iran's nuclear program shortly.
Can Iran be stopped for joining us -- -- former presidential candidate and mayor of New York City.
Rudy Giuliani mr.
mayor welcome thank you for coming in there's reason joining.
A first let me start with the what happened yesterday two wins for Mitt Romney within two hours he packed a surprise and also Maine some thought Paul would pull -- out your reaction.
I think it's an example of how this race is gone up and down -- Gingrich wins then Romney wins and Santorum wins.
Now -- is one several I still think it's an open race I think governor Romney.
Has the edge there's no question about it but Rick Santorum is definitely in there still has a real chance to prove itself I think Newt.
Who has nine lives and if you're probably used -- six of them already -- seven -- got a couple more you use up so.
I don't know what you have to sit and -- -- I think Sarah -- actually right.
They should now stop the negative campaigning against each other we know all the distinction between them most of it's about -- prior record.
I'd like to hear him talk about.
What they would do about Iran.
What they would do about North Korea what they can do that the economy taxes.
The deeper issue on this this forcing that -- Catholic institutions.
To provide contraception and I don't I don't get really into nerve problem but what are you that you don't even data that is -- -- -- present.
Why -- assurance companies and government force you to ensure for contraceptives.
Are they gonna have -- have to ensure for toothpaste.
This is ridiculous is this is part of the overarching massive government take over.
And telling us what to do about our health -- not just a moral issue.
It's the human rights issue do you think that I really boomerang on that President Obama actually backtracked from a perfect example.
As frightened Americans about obamacare.
It really is an attempt for the government to take over our medical decisions and dictate to us what we have to ensure and you think this has traction in the race.
Beyond Catholics and it has -- -- Speaking of frightening Americans in the issue of Iran and the Obama administration were very -- yesterday in a speech on the administration on Iran.
We just heard from John Bolton in the last hour potentially.
There are estimates that Iran could it be available to assemble a nuclear bomb potentially within six to twelve months.
What do you think.
Well I think that for what he does a realistic estimates I thought there.
Facility -- national security estimate was put out in the middle when I was running for presently 2007.
Early 2008 that Iran had ceased.
Its nuclear ambitions.
I thought it was some kinda sick political document trying to hurt President Bush as opposed to everything I know about intelligence and it's a good deal on.
Been involved in that as you know.
-- that I have politics.
I have no doubt that Iran is on the way to establishing a nuclear.
Weapon I think they're very close I can tell you for six months a year -- after two years.
But it's in the foreseeable future.
And forget about just a missile capacity keep focusing on their ability and -- nuclear weapons to the terrorists they are presently.
In in point using financing -- the biggest sponsor of state terrorism in the world.
Should the biggest parts of -- -- have nuclear weapons insane totally insane you're very critical the president saying that he shouldn't write anymore -- -- let us I guess I'm talking about what is that you wrote doesn't make -- about who called it quote a joke I mean -- -- some would say shouldn't try to negotiate with them.
If you are you know fifteen years old and totally immature and you have no idea -- power politics works and you've ever faced evil in your life.
And had a sense that hey they've already told us they don't want -- negotiate with us.
And we've seen what happens when you big.
Dictators and tyrants to negotiate they take advantage.
He just read American history and you learn that you learn that from the thirties you learned from the 60s50s.
And sixties you'll learn it from.
What happened before the attack on the World Trade Center which are not really responding effectively enough.
He's writing them letters you know do -- Ayatollah.
Please talk to me best regards President Obama and the Ayatollah.
Has has responded several times by saying go to.
You know where he's exactly to get -- hey how about we get the point you know what the Ayatollah will respect not a letter.
But -- statement of strength.
A statement that.
We will not allow you to become nuclear we don't want -- and gauge it military action against you we want you give us every reason not to.
But if you don't this is the strongest military on earth and if you don't think we can take out your nuclear.
Devices purity of mind and that'll be target practice for flood there's some thoughts that potentially in the spring or summer Israel code.
Launch a military strike or maybe not.
The sanctions are continuing your -- about the assassinations and I'm sure you scientists I'm not sure Israel can do.
I'm not sure Israel lobby got more mature -- has it can be done just with surgical bombing -- may require some special forces.
It may require something more than that but here's the point.
Whatever is needed.
The question is is it more dangerous.
To use military force to take out Iran as a nuclear power was a more dangerous have a nuclear Iran.
I say the latter is much more dangerous and I think if you start talking tough and they start to believe it.
I think -- chance of having to use military force is lessened dramatically.
That's what's missing from here is they figure they have President Obama predicted.
This guy wants to write letters he's big in the talk to us from their point of view that shows significant weakness but the administration has backed sanctions and tougher sanctions.
Well they've -- with sanctions forever and it doesn't really seem to stop them and since you've got Russia V vetoing.
The significant sanctions and you've got China vetoing it.
Those are two big economies you can continue to deal with and it really ameliorate a lot of the damage that the sanctions do.
So they have like a safety valve that if that's not cut off the sanctions only have half -- impact if if if that.
You spoke yesterday at a conference about this how do you see this playing out.
I believe that if we don't become very serious.
And convince -- radius that we will use significant military force to stop them.
But they're gonna just keep moving straight ahead they will occasion I I believe what I put in the -- gonna say is they would move in this direction but we're willing to talk.
That's the dodge that's the but that's how he gets all the left wing.
Dreaming about peace people who say oh let's negotiate with -- -- negotiate with the he'll get a little more delay that way.
I think we're gonna have to be prepared to use military force and we're gonna have to give this signal that would that we are not sold on reluctant to do.
And I think that may create a different site that might create -- different psychology I also think you know yesterday's conference was about the MEK.
I think we should give -- -- as a terrorist organization I think that would be a real shot in the face development in the shot and and and and and the Ayatollah they've had this organization listed as a terrorist organization for years.
There's a reason they're doing that they're afraid of that's why they're doing that it's a resist that's -- as a nation -- back to the resistance organization that was involved in overthrowing their shop.
Was involved on their side in the early days of the revolution so they got a history back then.
That -- bad one.
But then all of a sudden.
They became concerned with the excessive religious nature of the government they turned.
And over hundred thousands of slaughtered by the Ayatollah.
I have a book at home of 20000.
People doctors lawyers teachers killed by them.
They have gotten them designated a terrorist organization the Clinton administration did it.
Back in the late nineties in order to ingratiate themselves to -- To talk when not when Rafsanjani became prime minister -- make maybe a decent decision at the time didn't work out.
As you heard.
Louis freeh -- head of the FBI the times says.
There was no basis for declaring them a terrorist -- -- back then there's no basis for now what some say there's a report this week this isn't there involved with the assassination of the nuclear scientists that -- being trained by them sought to do that they deny that.
I deny it but and I believe that probably not I don't know what to believe there may be true may not be -- if they -- are involved and I think.
They belong like -- time person of the year right but just think about that right.
That's what they're trying to do is to trying to take out the Iranian regime.
Well the people who -- got ejection regime due to got to Libyan regime the people are taking out the aside -- regime.
And Occupy Wall Street.
What time person of the year for protests these people.
Are trying to take got a regime that's ten times -- that all of that combined but what some would say that killing a scientist to civilian is terrorist.
Unless that unless that this scientist is working on a weapon of mass destruction there's going to be put in the hands of the maniac.
Killing some of their German scientists who -- working very Adolf Hitler.
And how we do I -- -- human cloning.
Or how we develop.
How we develop the -- V rocket.
That could have ended up changing the balance would -- a few of those people is that terrorism or is that necessary a sensible policy.
And why is and why is -- everything then that happened in Egypt Libya.
How do we support those people were they terrorists when they were killing members of the government of the of the Mubarak government killing members of the of the Qaddafi government -- after all they are going up against the government.
That has killed millions.
Millions of people -- regime in Iran make Qaddafi.
Mubarak and even -- Look like.
Not so bad.
mayor what do you want the administration to do what you want this country I want to I want this administration to get realistic can get tough about Iran.
Stop this nonsense about talking to them which goes back to when he was debating Hillary Clinton and Hillary Clinton Clinton told him to his face that he's naive.
-- out Mr.
President they don't wanna talk to you know what what what they wanna hear from you but you're tough.
That you are capable of attacking them if that is necessary and that you're not gonna sit there and labor over.
That you are willing to do it if that is necessary to stop them from becoming a nuclear power.
And he should say to them in the toughest language you can come up with there's no way on earth I'm gonna let you become a nuclear power if -- too darn dangerous.
The danger of -- of the Cold War was nuclear weapons in the hands of irresponsible irrational people.
An -- and John have proven just beyond a reasonable doubt that they are irresponsible they should not have nuclear weapons in their hands it's dangerous for Israel -- for America.
Dangerous for England it's dangerous for the world.
An ominous warning on the Sunday morning from Rudy Giuliani mr.
mayor thank you thank it was good to see you thank you for coming in this morning but.
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