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Hate it it didn't go anywhere.
This so called compromise really all it did was veto process.
And put even more people in a position where they're gonna have to violate their moral and religious fully explain.
Well he did what the president is now doing it is it's.
He's saying that nobody gets any exemptions from this.
Because you won't be paying for it you'll just be paying the insurance company that will be paying for it.
It's so weird who's on first level logic that just doesn't doesn't add up at the bottom line well what do you bank.
Well I think that the people in this country who have launched a war on contraceptives are never going to be happy regardless of what the president says I would have stuck with the original plan.
Religious freedom in this country is not an absolute right when it conflicts with a larger societal good or societal -- When it violates the rights of others when -- -- harm.
They can and it will be overridden and I think that's what's going to be happening in this case Tonya thanks so.
I I I think the courts will be overriding this that the First Amendment protects freedom of religion it doesn't protect the freedom of contraception.
And this goes beyond contraception this also includes.
Are drugs that act as a board of patients as well -- sterilizations.
Most people -- disagree with and the whole idea that you can mandate religious freedom.
And perhaps give waivers one or two as the president suggests.
Is it is declaring war on faith it's not declaring one thing is better than the other.
Wanted to get -- a panelist reaction -- this Basel.
Yeah I think that the I think what you're saying is that this will be I think this will be decided in the courts are would have preferred that the president.
Wherever wherever you fall on this if you just stuck to its original plan but now I think.
What it would fingered people that's -- going back and forth it's.
Making a decision but not making a real decision that people can either.
That people you better get behind it looks like he's waffling and I think that's where.
You know if you if we're going to make this initial.
This initial policy decisions make it stick to it.
And and deal with the fallout.
But he hasn't done that and I think that's again what what's that there were a lot of.
I mean there's a major anger coming from the Catholic Church obviously about this.
There is and then of course the needle has not been meaningfully move boot or or even measurably move but -- what I think is that the great.
And most shocking news from this is that things can become free.
Of charge simply by presidential decree no one has to now pay for these services I don't know why the president doesn't simply say insurance companies -- cover.
All health care services -- energy costs for for consumers completely free of charge because apparently that doesn't get passed back to the employer who's buying.
The insurance plan and and for people to for the present -- for people are gonna buy this compromise is being any different from the initial plan.
Requires people -- the falling for that logic the obvious -- it's it's free of charge means.
The employers have no more moral qualms because they're not paying for -- cabinet -- bet I bet.
The Catholic hierarchy is upset about this ruling the Catholic laity is not look you've all seen the figures.
The number of individuals Catholic or not who rely on artificial contraceptive at some point in their lives -- in the high ninety's.
If the right wing in this country wants to declare war on contraceptives.
And -- -- black to them try to take away that right.
Let them have about a but I can guarantee you that there would be a push back and they -- going to lose that it's too late.
Women have been emancipated by the -- that -- emancipated by birth control they're not gonna go back to a period where.
We're stuck in some 1950s America.
That is long gone and that's really the underlying issue right here it's far beyond.
Whether an insurance companies gonna have to provide this it's really an attack on modernity.
And modern life that some people just simply have never reconciled themselves to and it's time for them to get over it.
-- It's -- unfortunately women have not been save from your tired rhetoric.
That that belongs way back in the seventies and sixties.
This goes far beyond -- you're so called war contraception this is a war on women and -- faith that this administration.
Has been waging since almost day one.
This is about religious liberty that you cannot force people to pay for things that are.
Think -- -- abhorrent to them and as somebody as a Catholic lady.
I can say I'm personally oppose this as as most people I know in my parish.
And it parishes all around the in the United States.
So they this is not a question of armed.
Obama as it ruling.
If this mandate just have to go router mitigated the last -- -- well right I'll just reiterate my point a minute ago I think that's pretty clear based on the figures of even Catholic women -- -- using artificial birth control the demand is there the one is there.
And -- that societal desire and that's societal good comes up against religious freedom.
Religious freedoms going to have to --
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