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And the controversial new book the Obama is author Jodi -- set the -- set the record straight set up the chronicle.
The president the first lady's relationship since he took office it is an intimate look at the personal and the private life of the first couple.
However the book has been overshadowed by descriptions of fierce exchanges between the First Lady.
And top White House officials as well as exposing the lavish parties thrown by the anointed one during the height of the recession.
Of these revelations of cause the White House the challenge and downplay.
Many in the and joining me now New York Times correspondent author of the Obama's Jodi -- hurry that the secluded to make you hurry -- great to be back I'm enjoying the book I'm not finished but I -- read a lot of it I really enjoy it I think you've done a lot of research.
I watch on interviews.
And you're being attacked -- liberal media.
I don't know if that's totally true of people and negative identical -- out.
Well you know it did they say you didn't sources he didn't talk to the Obama as a -- we talked to the closest friends -- how many sources yet.
I interviewed 33 he and current and former White House aides and a lot of the Obama's closest friends -- Actually a lot of that I -- I had been attacked and that much on TV it's more.
I think the thing that surprised me is that people on both the right and the laughter responding to but the back.
Because there's so much that.
Is universe sell to the presidency it's so much about going into that bubble and learning to cope -- that I really wrote the book in the first place to say and that.
Done it -- to talk about what happens when two pretty regular people Chicago and -- talented ambitious show Kabul and the people who kind of lived in the real world.
What happens when those two people go into the White House what sort of transformation.
Today go through what's the fact is the people would say no more -- on how could.
You came under attack on a rival network and I watched -- about.
The fact that well you didn't talk to the the Obama's what do you really know.
The White House wasn't happy with a lot of that Michelle Obama did that infamous interview I think was what with the Gayle King.
When she made some comments and needed -- most people thought of the time it was in direct response to your pending book.
Well I think it will listen sort of funny about the book's release says that I found a lot of people were weighing in -- On the back without actually beating -- and my understanding is that they in the First Lady actually -- on -- that she hadn't read it she didn't -- there and and so.
I finally people are actually reading that that's what I'm hoping they find is a -- that act carry it.
Nuanced portrayal of the president actually did the shows by the way their successes and their failure.
Is an area that I wanna go into because one of the main sources you used to new spoke with -- one of their closest confidant Valerie Jarrett Payton went back and looked -- an article you wrote in 2008.
-- 2009 when when the board knew they were going to the White House.
No new friends close circle of their old friends and during the campaign you describe -- they all would would spend time on the campaign trail.
How would change their relationship and lives.
And I look at the people that the president surrounded himself with and one in particularly quoted as being really.
At the year long separation for example Jeremiah Wright.
And you remember the column he wrote.
And what I'm trying to get to is.
What is it why do conservatives like me look at his background.
Look at -- Look at the people Jeremiah Wright.
Look at this inner circle and say I -- he hung out with a radicals -- whole life Bill Ayers Bernadine Dorn and there's a part of his life that he heights.
I don't think he's honest with the American people.
Well I think no new friends -- really goes to the president's overnight rise on quote comes from 2004.
And part of what happened to set the cut -- president and First Lady.
Really did go from living the synonymous life to suddenly the president was up political celebrity and the reason they limited their circle back and I think -- hit.
They want and -- preserved in their friends telling a kind of authenticity to their relationships they didn't wanna just sort of -- with new political allies that he has.
That's -- over in your research like Valerie Jarrett this close relationship in this news story -- media matters and and.
An enemy's list that this group creates.
And going up to the highest.
Closest connection to the White House and the president himself Valerie Jarrett.
And she's a part of this what are we to do what are we to glean from Ayers Wright Jarrett media matters and I see this as a conservative.
As an outspoken chairman -- it is something not right.
And in my off base of my in my not Tammy -- -- Think to be honest I don't even know if Valerie Jarrett and Jeremiah Wright actually know each other their backgrounds are at the other firms have taught me really got there -- really -- friend.
He had that you know I -- you Jared and the president's closest friends extensively and I don't think there's anything so -- the -- -- air about them.
Jerry its association -- media matters seems perfectly normal to feel well.
Here's I think -- was kind of tangential guy in the president's life has looked into it and there's no evidence that they had.
A particularly closer -- as.
He started his political career in his house they gave speeches together they sat on boards together when asked about it one time he said it's a guy in the neighborhood.
You don't think that's hot.
In the biographical reporting I've done -- somebody like Jarrett who listen mentor and Chicago.
And has it pretty conventional background as a business person I don't think there's anything radical about her background.
She's the person who has a much closer and more formative relationship with -- a resident than somebody like.
They'll layer saying thank.
Think I -- he did a very good job on a positive side which may shock some people of of showing the difficulty transitioning.
And her family into the White House.
And challenges that any family would face and and how difficult and how they looked out for their kids -- thought there was some actually very touching moments in there about that.
But I do believe and I would urge you as you do your investigator work in the future I think what's missing.
Is I think he does not he's not been honest in his portrayal of who he is and what he really things to the American people.
Well I don't have a different take on it from my reporting which -- that he's a very introverted and president.
The number of people he really can I send his relatively smile here's a relatively.
Solitary decision making style so delaying it.
I would think that it based on the interviews it's not so much.
And matter of you know hiding some terrible secret that he's a bit of a loner behavior and the White House and in his decision making.
A researcher at those -- -- -- learned a lot that I didn't -- for an appreciate you B Willis thank you Jodi thank can't.
And coming up this -- so that.
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