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They're gonna say to yourself -- are -- -- -- that I can and cannot name Tennessee this -- -- that I.
The day I was there the false himself showed up with a younger brother -- Regarding.
Thank -- funny -- it can't Geraldo Rivera.
For a brief I would start.
First guy was John stamp for the head of the Philadelphia mob you put a hit out on the there's a new book hit man -- that that chronicles that and of course -- got -- -- And the big guy you didn't see -- Sammy the bull gravano over the years I've had some scary confrontations with the mob my next guest though celebrate their family roots.
-- meet two of the stars of VH one's number one hit show.
Here's the mob wives.
I never has.
I always said yes we were friends like that happens.
I never said why I keep saying I feel I never the night hadn't had a front.
Hold up -- to see this system -- market.
Yeah he's just think the fact that I would not your friend what I -- definitely we will always friends we have to stop being.
Related to get it right -- -- friends and we're not friends.
Is how it as -- as they can have its -- -- -- -- -- Not the place of the -- you don't have.
-- -- -- I think he'll go back disposal well if you go to my cousin Brian -- that they'll have this is why I happen.
Candor about out of the daughter Sammy the bull gravano believe it or not the admitted mass murderer who turned against his boss John Gotti helped put him behind bars we -- he died in 2002.
Ramona Rizzo is granddaughter of Benjamin -- -- Virginia Oreo.
Who kill even more people than Sammy the bull he was portrayed in that famous movie Donnie Brasco by Alpa chino.
Is so when you first saw Karen.
It sounds in reading your book I quickly like.
I'm gonna do something you Paula tells you in jail that goes against everything I've ever believed in everything I ever told you guys to believe -- I'm gonna cooperate with the government and the testified for them.
Yes I loved him you write and wanted him at a prison as soon as possible but turning states evidence.
When against every -- behavior had ever not a gets everything you'd ever taught us to believe it sort of separate you more concerned about him rounding out his friends than him -- -- nineteen people he confessed.
Absolutely at that time I just felt like I was confused I was young I was nineteen years old so I.
Where I was gonna go after that I felt like my whole life was ripped out from underneath and I signed him -- I really wasn't thinking about.
Murder or anything like that I was looking and what is gonna happen me what's gonna happen in my family.
You know and I felt betrayed I felt like my father had taught me -- and -- he's going against them and that he taught me never to damp and.
And Ramona in your case I mean did the ever discuss what grandpa did for a living.
Did you see the movie.
I saw them on it but as far as -- wrap -- his parents aren't those historical alleged he was -- -- In culturally convicted -- that was just what they said it was never you never -- thank thank.
And it was this again north alleged and you know on the island -- but I stood alleged yes but I thought he confessed to 26 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- is alleged to have committed.
While he never confessed to attend is that approach south you know -- circus in his grave.
Do you celebrate your family background I -- that my grandfather and the love he represents and gave me so that's all I really need to now.
And it -- -- did outside the home really as a -- that's what are you willingly he's.
Ignorant -- I mean do you make yourself not think about it.
Not that ignorant of it again you know I'm -- honest I was his princess I was his granddaughter he never come came home and discuss what he did so I only know him as my grandfather.
All this of the talk of what he may have made that then that's his business so I don't sit there I don't celebrate I celebrate him as -- -- Had to women or headed men DU knowing that your dad was so.
Connected I mean Sammy the bull was everywhere which god knows that say and you makings of a mom at that time in less time of the bonds -- -- So I think but it also that was there were out.
They were gangsters outside the house and what about your -- they had to them whenever I feel nervous it was coming home on time.
I looked at their very spec file.
But and the answer was in the back of their minds that this and again if someone.
Disrespected me -- -- something to hurt me my father would yell at them as a father not as stamina building -- you know I think any man if they have a daughter is going to be protective of them.
So how real is this show of yours these does -- -- That these -- that is bigger fighter is -- And I think -- -- you know are very passionate what we believe and so the -- are real.
Other people Michelle -- -- and maybe were just too real for Tina because your parents really your dad's really were mobsters and there is -- wannabes.
Well that bad and how.
Yes yes sleeping and also we're not acting for a television we're just really being myself a lot of people -- she said last week basically get behind that Green screen and become Greenspan.
-- from Green -- thanks to examine and they act for the television they wanna be me be more besides.
Movie stars is and isn't so is reality real -- yes it Israel nobody gives us the script it says.
You know let's say this haven't -- -- it just happens and for me I feel like I have distance myself so much from this well.
-- coming back and sitting here like especially with -- and arguing on a certain things kind of pulled me back into something and that.
I'm trying to move past -- brand new book mob -- -- The mafia -- little gravano and me.
And you guys grip -- Staten Island here he's still live there yes he still wants to and I have been I -- Arizona allowed just came back.
I remember uncle Paul Castellano who.
Was killer went to his house that they do live in the same neighborhood I did at one time until now he was killed by John -- -- Well yeah my and it's sort of -- pull the trigger now alienated him you know.
My -- like I you know all this loving cat.
And I are doing a lot -- about it I'm gonna say that he's been examines your name I like how well they.
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