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-- FOX News Sunday anchor Chris Wallace has been following all these developments tonight with.
But wise men in Washington.
Are what we settled on that -- Chris.
-- No I don't know way to do it wise men space cowboy -- political insiders -- -- -- case they're the best in the business Karl Rove.
Republican strategists the architect of George W Bush's two presidential victories and Joseph Trippi Democrat -- Advisors strategist campaign manager.
And and I got to take these guys -- not just look at the numbers they -- make the numbers stand up and so little differences using their 32% as then.
Well here's what Karl Rove has done without this is.
His -- this but they have a certain meaning to them Carl tell us.
From what you say -- from where the votes are and where the votes aren't in of that 32%.
Who's gonna win Michigan.
The counties that are coming in for.
Santorum like -- and delta triple a Marquette.
More than voters in like 61% of people who you were saying that the smaller counties are -- Smart -- come coming quicker.
Somebody -- we have a couple of -- -- -- all the votes in of course they were you know grand total of a couple hundred votes in the county.
So these smaller counties Syrian and Santorum is tending to win -- 2948.
For example and -- twenty ninth Rummy 48 for.
For -- of rom four cents Santorum but the bigger counties where Romney is come and he's coming in there and they're coming in much slower McComb county.
He's got a lead of a thousand votes they're only 3% of the voters and he's gonna probably command that county -- -- 30000 vote lead.
Oakland County 12% of the vote and he's got an 8000 is -- suburbs sort of of Detroit and for interim county which is in the center of the state done nearing an end -- The State Capitol 2% of voters and and Romney has a thousand vote lead in the county so.
Looking at these these bigger counties that are attending to vote for Romney are coming in slowly and they've got a lot more votes to come and as a result.
They're there they're gonna come in with a big ball right so so just looking at this at at this point it's a three point margin 4130 day.
Just -- -- what's your guess what the marginal -- harder to save it on my suspicion is 45%.
Maybe 6% okay Joseph does a salt truck when you or.
Yeah I'd agree that in Iowa and Carl and I -- through these numbers in.
We we disagree dot -- type in Santorum -- eke it out he thought Ronnie wood and that you had sort of a better mix of counties here.
When you look at this it's it's pretty clear I think that Romney.
Romney's got the edge and you have to even think that it's gonna expand out a little bit from what we're seeing the three I think it's showing 3% -- Talk about this the Democrats -- is that an interesting thing 9%.
Of the voters identified themselves as Democrats was 8%.
Last time that was 17% back in 2000.
And they are going for Santorum -- -- according to the exit -- 53%.
Which raises the question do you think that between what the Democrats did to try to get out some Democrats and what Santorum did with the robo calls.
Do you think that the Democrats if not.
Giving me the victory to sand storm are narrowing Romney's victory absolutely and I had I had.
Experts for this in 2000 win.
The NBA in Michigan education associated UAW which would -- was governor Engler instructed their members come out and vote for McCain and ordered to embarrass -- And you get a whiff of that in the data here where you have for example those were somebody's in -- union household they're voting for a -- -- 4625.
Which also get a sense for example that.
Now Democrats are voting for Santorum 5370.
My favorite is that the strong Tea Party supporters are present term.
And the people are strongly against the state party or force them to our self described moderates and liberals are voting for.
Romney 37 the 33% of armor voted for Santorum now.
You you were saying that it back in 1988 the Republicans did this to the Democrats in Michigan that's right a lot of Republicans voted for Jesse Jackson -- -- Jackson ended up it ended up winning Larry I'm pretty sure that's what happened there -- it I think you have this.
This had any you know -- the Romney people organizers who who.
The -- and open process and in Michigan so it's kind of well.
Yeah that was it or not there's a story all right well clearly because -- -- -- get one last thing and then we'll come back and we'll tell that story.
Arizona are -- under planks obviously this is that the mystery Michigan.
So we're not talking as much about Arizona we under playing Romney's victory in Arizona well first all the effective date people that wanna contestant or says something about the strength there and second multi battleground state in the general election at least that's what the Obama camp says.
And Romney is winning in this handily and -- 29 delegates I was that's a winner take all this -- that's not nothing no final thought.
I think of the key things.
Santorum's view claimed he he he won the night and -- the -- both sides are going to be able claiming they wanted to see informs him -- -- -- claiming that because -- how -- this is going to be even if it does open up to 45 points.
And our guys early and often an -- but never -- -- at this point they say that Romney is gonna take on this is just the back of Carl's and -- -- but he's saying -- -- -- you hear to hear it -- this.
There very -- clearances as can big guys it's not Romney is gonna take Michigan.
And I can I can make perfect sense of that bush and fax that to the decision desk.
If that happens at these are -- -- I don't like us but I don't.
Not nearly as exciting maybe we can get a picture of them and -- them out -- like I did with you -- -- press has always thank you thank you you well that thirty.
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