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-- Grubman elected to the states and its 2004.
After ten years in the more than ten years in the -- state assembly and you get this rather controversial bill SB 507.
That would require the State's child abuse and neglect prevention board emphasized.
That non marital parenthood is a contributing factor to child abuse and neglect you explain that.
Well absolutely we have a child abuse and neglect -- their goal is to educate people how to reduce the -- -- study Scholl.
That if you are living with your -- biological parents compared with a biological parent in a boyfriend or girlfriend.
You -- you were -- -- -- girlfriend -- twenty times greater chance at being sexually abused.
Furthermore other sorts of physical abuse can also up by a factor sixers.
Is there a particular study you site and as I saw -- video do you -- in -- in the senate you're reading from a study did what study is that.
Right to force -- national incidence study of child abuse -- neglect which is something put out by the United States Department of Health and Human Services.
It's a national study and -- use common sense it wouldn't surprise you either.
But as you know there's a reason -- on Thai people try to keep pales in check that a child is.
Not to -- that single parents out there that a child is more at risk without their biological parents right now we have a a crisis in this country.
-- New York Times reported in the last week.
-- the births to women under thirty in this country are born out of wedlock.
Obviously this disaster waiting to happen while some parents are gonna fight that we throw and it's not gonna do damage their children many -- and they'd -- Damaged -- good good birth control right.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- A good answer to that would be to help provide as the president is doing.
-- access to complete count birth control and help women.
Anybody -- -- sister -- control it's true that it's not true well that.
It's actually not -- it's actually very expensive for women for example this woman -- flake who.
Was recently -- -- by Rush Limbaugh and wanted to speak before the house committee had inherited by Darrell ice on this.
It costs a woman something like a thousand dollars.
You know we could cost a lot of money.
Three down there in the cost of her look career so look we're the.
I'll tell you -- the vast majority of women who are having children they are not an accident which we are in -- society in which it's 60%.
Of the children born -- women under thirty are born out of wedlock gets no -- what is happened is our social services.
Has made it entirely acceptable we have not told women -- risks.
I'm having children in a situation like gears of father out I don't think -- -- -- adequate job display amber at.
What what's the role of government is you know I don't know whether those figures are true or not you I haven't seen the study.
-- while -- thank you but when you.
-- putting forth a bill that states.
That you want the neglect child abuse and neglect prevention board emphasize an unmarried parenthood is a contributing factor to child abuse and neglect.
Are you not then singling out single moms for example.
And and putting them at a position have to defend themselves as good parents.
Well I don't -- what other way to do it.
I mean people should you know -- -- -- -- single -- sort that they're their single moms like pulling the statistics vulgar twenty times greater.
And want to -- -- destruction and another idiot Jakarta child music -- sexual abuse to talk about it.
Motorola Q what what -- the government -- -- is -- -- say the government is supposed to engineer.
-- families to make sure there's a mommy and daddy you know when liberals try to -- like that conservatives called social engineering so what is the role of government in this.
The government is engineering the government is pushing the signal optional -- -- lifestyle.
They're doing with all the benefit programs which primarily benefit.
As a manner you know like like poaching by pushing birth control in excess -- health care in prenatal care for women.
What you're actually doing is provide -- promoting women's health is your perhaps cutting down on unwanted pregnancies.
-- the -- the region government is pushing the single mother lifestyle.
It's ultimately up but he had hoped for government almost predicated on it that it -- single mother -- -- It low income housing be -- -- -- be at the various welfare programs that different states called by different names -- here.
-- would you do women and well you do for these women who -- often in poverty often because they've maybe had an abusive partner who left or a man who isn't.
Perhaps paying what he -- -- a child care child support.
What would you do for these women.
-- there's been a huge change over the last thirty years and a lot of exchange has been the choice of equipment.
There's a reason why in the sixties or in the -- eastern media less than 10% of the burst.
Illegitimate and our over 40%.
It's -- that there weren't abusive man.
In the forties there was -- -- problem child support it is the popular culture -- by the social services professions.
What are saying -- would you change.
Well I think the first that we should -- we should educate them that this is a mistake.
-- think women need to be educated -- -- they not Smart enough on their own.
Now they do have to be educated because right now the culture overwhelmingly encourages.
A single mother -- lifestyle.
You think when I choose to be single mom do you think women -- want to have a -- without without fathers.
Do you think women look to the opportunity at them to have to raise kids and have not had not be able to get work because they have just -- security kids women want to do this.
I think a lot of women.
-- are adopting the single motherhood lifestyle because the government creates a situation.
In which it is almost prefer.
No way you tell me because so women are saying hey you know what if I can have to kid I can get the government take care remain.
And I don't have to work and I'll be able to get these food stamps and I'll get all these goodies -- -- -- high and the odd because when I -- -- I'm -- all that money from the government this is how women think.
-- and fish and any women are having children out of wedlock.
I would shake it -- or maybe.
The government handouts.
Just I think we're pretty Italian you have the topic I think -- very insulting -- because my -- Here and helping because you're -- these Willard.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- Oh you're implying that they choose to be in these circumstances that they purposely want to -- -- circumstances are being single and then with a child.
-- no other means of support in order to get government largess that's what you're implying.
I think they're expecting the government largesse and that enters into the equation as to.
Let may decide to have children -- what circumstances they decide if -- There's not enough money.
-- -- -- way a really from social services to really make it very attractive.
To want dubious sure -- Really -- -- so much money the government that they -- -- so well that they wanna have more kids console that money's coming.
Well I figure if -- situation in which you're eligible for rate is seven or 800 dollar -- month.
I'll low income housing allowance security situation which might get 4500 dollars a month and -- cheer.
Security situation which after working part time getting six -- 7000 dollars a year -- income tax credit if you're -- situation what you're getting.
Kind of a well it's -- check the replaces the old AFDC.
And security situation which may be living with -- not related guy as well.
I think you couldn't live very comfortably.
As a matter fact if you ask around.
You'll find it's not hard to find -- who feel their sisters in this position if they're not that mission are living better than there -- a variety of ways.
According to data published USA today.
At least four and ten pregnancies in every state were unwanted or miss time.
According to the analysis that was released.
Last may more than half of pregnancies in 29 states in the decision gloomy -- unintended 38 to 50% were were unintended in the remaining states.
So this mitigates against the argument.
That women are purposely.
About wanting to have kids there -- unintended for the most -- tonight looking to get pregnant.
There are unintended pregnancies which is the argument for health care services and health -- and birth control.
I think is the equipment you -- sell and sell them -- so I think.
-- you have an epidemic of this great proportion of people are not so -- That it's a price and they get right.
I think people are -- to say that this surprised because you're still not of the stigma there's positives you that this is not all.
You're saying women are not so dumb but yet you're saying the government need to step in and educate them.
As if to say that they -- for themselves come to conclusions that they need to come to for the -- -- managing their own lives.
Well outside in the state which at least been treating million dollars agency which is supposed to prevent abuse.
Where and shots he disproportionate.
-- a -- abuse.
Families about biological parents at all.
I didn't get agencies should point that out because I do think our culture -- the popular culture and the social services culture all the political correctness.
They are afraid to point get out I myself look very conservative person.
Was -- to fight.
That that that he.
That he -- much sexual abuse are twenty -- greater.
It -- in which we have mom had a boyfriend at all and instead of pop in at a twenty times different that meant to break through LIL that.
What's the fate of SP 507.
Well planning right now whatever -- committee put -- a committee to fire line.
What -- -- actually any you probably not gonna get a lot of support I'm guessing.
It's next -- a lot of people -- it's about time somebody spoke about this problem -- -- memory on it wasn't that long ago and our society in which people.
We're very concerned -- -- yet divorced very concerned about the children very concerned about the children if they were raised without a mother.
-- I idea that you're State's gonna have codified language.
Single moms as likely to be abusers as an likely it's not likely to make.
Talk about it -- -- -- It is that you got to look -- Well.
It's gonna be interpreted to -- -- I doubt that's gonna make it into -- I mean you really think there's a chance of passing.
It does well look.
Get out of committee I asked the -- there.
And -- -- happens afterwards I'll be surprised to put in two years it doesn't become law that is something else say it let somebody begins to speak out.
And that damages to the children.
Our future children aren't -- right now we have this entire social services establishment.
Are so concerned about being politically correct.
That they allow all this illegitimacy -- skyrocket our country and about somebody in history that bill that illegitimacy rate mortgage.
-- why are you and why is that why should you be that person by the way.
-- -- -- people are doing it.
Are you doing -- -- I -- a -- legislator I I I have a platform offered different than yours -- -- enact laws.
Now I don't know but I think would -- be -- Chinese.
Reports that 60% of the births to women under purity.
Our bridge out of wedlock ice and get something which we talked about that shows like yours which should be talked about -- social workers which we.
Are we talking better I -- we have very different solutions sued when you talk about so many births being out of wedlock.
My solution is to do exactly what -- Obama is doing which is to provide services for women which Republicans want -- remote.
So yes -- -- agree or disagree on the statistics we could fight back and forth based on this study verses that study we certainly don't agree with the remedy -- -- at least in my state and I assume you are you in New York yes I -- -- New York.
Over thirty years.
Planned -- until it has given out free birth control just about anybody who watched.
And it couldn't be more -- more.
-- And the rate of illegitimacy is only -- here.
Well it's amid all the women want to get pregnant that they choose to have their babies out of wedlock -- that any woman can get any birth -- they want any time.
We'll have to does that leave that well I've just have to disagree about that serve and I really do appreciate your coming on the program and.
All you can get the Scholl.
Thank you very much --
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