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Anyone else isn't for football season really -- -- from Atlanta back.
-- him that I get decided that this is some.
A different story than that we're focusing on its -- that the videos from Florida State University the seminoles of course the mascot -- after some controversy.
-- they were able to keep their name and compete in NCAA but it's a different story for another team.
I did the University of North Dakota let's showed the logo for -- they go by the name the fighting Sioux.
NCAA is saying the logo and -- name are hostile to native Americans and the teams for this university.
Risk for fitting post season games playoffs.
If this logo is displayed by their athletes cheerleaders are banned or biggest -- the name.
And general Lisa Wheeler is a Fox News legal analyst mark -- -- she is in defense attorney and former prosecutor and -- before we get started we have to.
Bring in this part of the story the state legislature.
In North Dakota.
Made it illegal.
For the team to drop that name -- want that team with the university to keep that name the NCAA says hey our -- Our rules now -- -- was right at -- it -- NCAA is not right here at the legislature passed outlaw that got a statewide referendum that's coming up let the voters decide.
Look we're not talking about the -- -- the losers soon -- you're right about the fighting Sioux like the fighting Irish gonna take out a way to.
Everybody in North Dakota wants the fighting -- and why -- it's not just -- it's not just Florida by the -- -- you talk Michigan.
And Florida many states the FDA isn't less okay they're using Indians I mean Cleveland -- Atlanta Braves -- -- -- we certainly showed.
Are right you can use in what we're gonna allow you to keep it.
Does that change things here because in North Dakota one try when Sioux tribe says it's okay and other -- sesno is not.
Yeah I thoroughly disagree my dear friend lease on this one and 2005.
The -- were able to keep their name because this seminoles signed off on it.
In this case they don't.
They find it to be abhorrent they find it to be hot style.
And -- law allows the NCAA.
To do what ever they like under these circumstances.
They've asked -- North Dakota to take that away and if they don't their penalties.
I think are appropriate.
That it's an overreach mark that is a complete overreach by the NCAA -- analysts say.
Wait if you don't do you feel go by our dictates you distilling is now let's just forget about the politics of that.
The students the athletes have been working so hard work on the line for May be a championship here they have to forfeit -- -- -- kind of message about Suddenly Susan that's just wrong that does.
NASA had enough here's a message.
The message is we won't tolerate racism.
That's what this this and it is unfortunate that the kids won't get get to play unfortunate.
No it's no different lesson you have kids I have kids they don't listen they go to bed when David Letterman takes the stage if they wanna do so in order to get them to go to bed sometimes -- to come up with significant threats to get them to comply and you look draconian in doing so hot but they comply when you -- When you aren't going on here you have many people in a North Dakota at a native Americans who want to who like -- think it's a tribute it's an honor to be the fighting suits and mark let me let me -- on that kind of contrary -- point because totally hear what you're saying a lot of people agree with you and saying listen this is.
This just doesn't feel right -- to be sensitive to the tribes and their wishes but I was I was doing some research on assume right because they don't really talk about native Americans that -- and and again it's contrarian but I wonder in the effort to protect its right -- to protect the native Americans we make them further -- -- -- by.
Just not allowing any of their names anywhere because of racism.
LA I can.
Thoroughly appreciate what you're saying and I appreciate -- thinking well it's not racist but ultimately it's not up to you all.
They have decided that it is and they met with the NCAA and they decided that it is that it is racist.
They wouldn't be going through this that they didn't think it was -- the decision has been made the NCAA.
Has the legal right then.
To set these rules there's no president or what at least -- point to that -- -- -- don't.
As a referendum that's up in June in the state of North Dakota don't you think that referendum should at least be voted on to the voters of North Dakota can decide whether or not they want to have no -- Look at least let me taste and we still have separate bathrooms were African Americans and we -- that's a majority decide -- Let me just a quick final thought mark on this is a start with police the Supreme Court did not take up this case are ruled that in the Kansas City Chiefs -- stay right.
And that that's that's allowed to the Supreme Court is allowing that that the NCAA is -- allowing this is there a double standard in does that does that feel right the Supreme Court says is okay and -- circumstance.
But -- at a league says it's not in another.
-- the Supreme Court is merely saying that the NFL.
Can -- how they then that logo and that name to be used the NCAA is saying we don't think it's appropriate we wanna do something that I wanted to stand against racism.
And they're allowed to do so there's enough.
And that includes that is right with the Supreme Court -- the NFL can go forward how -- the Supreme Court but never got there -- of the Supreme Court say well the at a falcons over the NCAA can't it'll be interesting to see what happens because as -- -- -- -- it was a good point at least about college athletes I I was that's -- you work hard to the end of the year -- not be able to play.
At the same time let's hope just -- and it -- all time -- -- make a good point because other schools have just remove the logo or change a few things.
And they were able seemed to play in the students -- thank you both we'll continue to watch this issue appreciate it.
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