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- Date Mar 4, 2012
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And -- -- again from Fox News in Washington.
While all eyes are on Super Tuesday Washington State held its caucuses -- -- and here are the results.
Mitt Romney won with 38%.
Ron Paul finished second at 25%.
Rick Santorum was close behind at 24.
Newt Gingrich was last.
On Tuesday ten states -- with more delegates at stake -- all the -- -- -- up till now.
Joining us from Tennessee one of the states that votes on Super Tuesday is former senator Rick Santorum and senator welcome back to Fox News Soledad thank.
I'm Chris -- -- still good to be -- is our Ohio is I think it's generally agreed the biggest prize on Super Tuesday and it would seem to be.
Tailor made for you.
Blue collar manufacturing.
Lots of rural areas big evangelical vote.
Don't you have to win -- -- Well we're gonna do very very well -- I I believe that I mean -- say it's a tough state for us only because of the you know the fact that is with the money disadvantage.
But where we've got a great grassroots campaign.
We're hanging in there and we feel very confident that we're going to do well.
As you know it's it's it's always harder when you've got to too conservative candidates out there running in the races we've seen in.
In Washington and we've seen and I -- some of the other states.
We have the -- -- the anti Romney vote if you well both Gingrich and -- out there slugging away.
We just need that to show that we are the best candidate to go head to head and I think if you look at all these races.
It's governor Romney in the water to -- or in this case -- and Carson Paul spent a lot of time out there.
But where that where the ones that are that are the alternative clear alternative then you know eventually hopefully this race settles out and we'll get a chance to go one on one.
And once that happens we feel very comfortable we're gonna win this thing.
Well you raise the question should Newt Gingrich drop out.
Well that's up to him to decide that clearly if you if you continue to combine the votes that congress and -- tonight yet.
You know we are you know we're we're doing pretty well in Michigan we -- -- easily.
Had had -- had done those two -- and combined it.
You know that that's that's a process I think it's gotta figure out.
You know where he goes after Georgia and -- we're gonna we're gonna see that I think we're gonna do well here in Tennessee we're gonna do well and Oklahoma.
And he didn't do very well also in in Ohio and North Dakota and and I you know I think we'll come in second place in a lot of places -- so.
Again if you look get -- where you can finish first and and and and good second places.
Think again isn't this race narrows.
To what to -- candidates overtime and that's where we have our opportunity.
On the other hand because of filing problems you may be ineligible for eighteen of Ohio's 66 delegates.
And you're not even on the ballot in Virginia which means you have no chance for those 49 delegates the Romney campaign says this is a question a basic.
Competence.
And they say you -- Well as you as you know Chris those those delegates had to be filed -- in Virginia and and all back all the way back in early part of December and -- -- you know look I'll be honest and I was out running across the state of Iowa and you know sit at 2% the national polls it was very very limited resources.
You know we didn't have the ability to go out I think it's remarkable -- that it.
That if you look at all of the states other than a handful and not in in in Ohio.
And Virginia where we weren't the only one that didn't get on about Rick Perry didn't get on a -- a lot of resources and Newt Gingrich who had a lot of resources back then did get on.
You know we've done that amazingly well for a campaign early on that didn't have a lot of resources to go out and do things.
And now we got -- a lot of ballots that people just you know probably -- and -- I feel very good that we've got hot -- enough.
Clearly enough to be able to win this this nomination.
Rush Limbaugh has now apologized to that Georgetown law student who's that diverse student health plan should cover birth control.
But your party is still pushing this issue in the senate they offered the blunt amendment this week which said that any.
Business any insurance company could decide on moral grounds not to offer.
Birth control coverage as part of their health insurance plan that.
Didn't do you really want to be campaigning on contraception.
In the year 2012.
With a blood to them it was broader than that it as you know I mean it was it was a conscious -- exception and has a -- does cause exception that existed.
Prior to when -- Obama decided that he could impose his values on people of faith when the people of faith believe that this is a grievous moral wrong.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Any it out US steel any company and -- insurance company could decide not to offer birth control.
If there was -- Nomo wasn't about birth control was about a moral exception to take any type of any type of mandated didn't specifically spelled out and in including -- can -- right any treatment well but it.
Yeah this is a conscious clause exception which which used to be something that was unanimously agreed to -- Patrick morning head back and that.
Hillary care bill offered a similar amendment and it was widely it was accepted widely.
The idea that that the government can force people to do things that they believe are morally wrong.
Is something that at least here -- four was up was seen as an outrage that the government there would be a separation of church and state leaders so much.
About the let's say no we -- a separate church and state.
Well how about the separation -- is that -- the state.
Eight was the force the church and people who are faithful who are believers into doing something that they don't wanna do and as you know in that amendment.
It said that if if if if people want to object to certain treatments.
That the secretary of health could require them to adopt other treatments so it's actually the same so it's not something where.
You -- to say well we're just gonna get out of pain for these things because we don't wanna pay for them.
It's it's it's real where there's real clear conscience protections for people of faith the government should not.
Be forcing people to do things that are against their conscience and that has always been a Harbaugh a hallmark of American and an absolutely anchored in the First Amendment.
But senator this is more than an issue of of faith our conscience religious freedom.
You say that you believe that birth control is wrong take a look.
So well that's okay.
I don't know it's a license.
To.
Central central Rome it is this kind of what would help -- of.
And senator -- -- at the Centers for Disease Control say that 99%.
Of women in this country between the ages of fifteen and 44.
Who have had sexual activity and this includes Catholic women.
They say that 99%.
Of them at some point in their lives have used artificial birth control.
Are you saying all those women have done something wrong.
I'm reflecting the views of the church that I believe that I -- we used to be tolerant of those beliefs.
I guess now when you help when you have beliefs that are consistent with the with the church.
Somehow -- another -- out of the mainstream meant and and that that to me rose is a pretty sad a situation where you can't.
Have personal -- but that's not what the issues about the issues about whether the government can force you.
Do do things that are against your conscience and that's what we're that's what we've been talking about on the road we haven't been talking about my own personal moral beliefs.
We've been talking about what that what the government can do in forcing people to change or violate those -- It's one last question on social issues -- -- you say that churches and faith based organizations.
Have a big role to play in in helping them for helping people who -- disadvantaged.
I want to ask you about that the twenty -- Tax returns because in them and they show the President Obama gave 14%.
Of his income to -- Mitt Romney gave almost 14%.
You gave one point 76%.
Why so little -- Bobby we always need to do better I was in a situation where we have we have seven children and one -- disabled child who we take care of then.
She's very very expensive we lover and -- would we we cherish the opportunity to take care of her but she's.
It's -- it's an additional expense we have to have round the clock care for and our insurance company doesn't cover it so I have to cover -- and you know that's.
That's one of the things that you know you have to balance the needs of your immediate family and if you look back in the previous years we did donate more and I said it's an area that I need to do better and -- do better.
Actually we looked at -- -- charitable returns I think since 2007.
And and in every case it was around 2% you you you talked up.
-- was it was -- it was around three or 4% -- but that's okay.
-- again in a way that we were dealing we're dealing with a situation our family of seven children.
Out during those four years we had we had our little girl and and it was.
It's a very costly she's very costly and again I'm not I'm not making excuse except for the fact that.
You know there every family goes through -- periods of times where they they have to -- written dedicate resources to the problems they have in their own family and taking care of people and that's -- we did.
Absolutely you talk about the cost of education you caused quite a stir reason -- When you criticize President Obama was education policy take a look.
Pres Obama wants it said.
He wants everybody in America to go to -- What is -- now.
But senator would look back the president has never sad that that this is what he did say in his first address to congress.
I ask every American to commit to at least one year or more of higher education or career training.
It's can be a community college or four year school.
Vocational training or an apprenticeship.
The reason I ask senator is because.
But -- we look back at your 2006.
Website when you were running for reelection back in 2006.
And here's what your campaign put up on your website.
Rick Santorum has supported legislative solutions.
The provide loans grants and tax and -- as to make higher education more accessible and affordable.
Question weren't you then right where Barack Obama is now.
Well I'll -- I can say is that I support people being able to go -- -- have the opportunity go wherever they wanna go but I I wanted to make sure that we.
Focus not just on for -- college degrees and that we.
We understand that there -- a lot of different training opportunities for people both this you know and in technical schools and -- going to the military or going to a lot of other places that we need to the to make sure that we affirm all of those choices and -- -- -- brilliance that is I'll just.
Well again today I've been a -- -- was reason things that and I've read some -- read some towns where we're.
At least it was characterized the president said should wish we should go to for -- colleges.
I if I was in -- -- least certainly -- if you say you haven't found that I've certainly read that.
If it was an error then not that I agree with the president that.
That we should have options for people to go to a variety of different training.
Options for them.
We you also say that that you were never although you voted for No Child Left Behind you were never -- and then -- fact you you took one for the team but again.
We want to look.
Now it's not true.
Not such artists that I said it costs are supported and I'm tonight and then I said subsequently that I made a mistake I mean nobody wanted residential aggravated released and you said you took one right the team what was that about.
Was that there were things of that bill that I didn't like and you know there's a huge amount of education spending that I actually did like a lot of people didn't like.
A -- as you know about 90% of the senate voted for.
A because there were things in there I did like which was the educational testing part of it -- try to get some determination as to how our schools were performing.
I think that was an important thing to do to get some sort of measurement.
And so ultimately what happened with the implementation this bill and that spending which gave me heartburn Ben and I didn't like then.
I seem to then become the dominant part of what No Child Left Behind was was about.
And that's why I said you know that was a mistake in voting for -- -- -- government control and and over -- local school that.
That brings me my points -- because I wanna go back to what you said in your 2006 website when you were running for re election.
Rick Santorum supported the No Child Left Behind act which has been the most historic legislative initiative enhancing education opportunities.
To pass congress in decades of this is five years after you would voted for it.
And in 2006 you're campaigning.
Based on your support for No Child Left Behind when we you'd found out what it was about and all the spending.
Was as I said before.
That having the the testing was very very important.
And in fact the first part of that when it was implemented what we did see is a lot of a lot of testing a lot of evidence they came out.
That our schools were failing and I think that was an important thing to have have accomplished.
-- subsequently particularly under this president we've seen and later -- President Bush's term we sought explosion of education spending.
But which I objected to.
But couple of final questions I wanna talk about your economic plan you would set to tax rates 28 and 10% you would cut the corporate tax rate.
In half to seventeen point 5% you would start reforming entitlements now not in ten years and you would cut spending.
Five trillion dollars and five years.
The nonpartisan committee for a responsible federal budget says even if you could get all those things through congress.
You would end up adding to the deficit largely because -- tax cuts by four and a half trillion dollars over the next ten years your response.
While.
This is of these of these organizations that don't believe that when you reduce taxes that you get more economic growth and I just don't accept the I don't except economic models that they use -- we've we've seen in the past when conserve when when Reagan and bush.
A particularly Reagan would make the the cuts that kind of dramatic -- that we're suggesting here.
You see a huge spike in growth.
And and more actually more revenues coming -- the federal government they.
They don't they don't use dynamic scoring they basically -- cut things are gonna get less money period.
And they don't offset the the facts that the economy's gonna grow faster so.
I just don't accept the premise of their argument I think that we've seen in the past that cutting taxes does create growth.
Cutting regulations that as we do in this and our plan we repeal every single one of Obama's regulations that cost over a hundred million dollars in the economy.
Which is you know last year alone was a 150.
Just two and a half times the average under Clinton and bush.
We're gonna go out and and change the entire environment in this country so we can see real economic growth and you'll see more revenues as a result.
And we're gonna have to leave it there as senator Santorum wanna thank you so much sir for coming in today and talking -- state travels on the campaign trail sir and I got a bit of a cold I hope you feel better.
And we'll see how -- I got here Tuesday night.
Appreciate dress up next the --